@lilteichmonster Stuuuuuuuuu (not sure of the appropriate number of u's, ether) is now working as part of evo's buying team, specifically with snowboards. He was formally at the Seattle location as a retail manager. He's also written copy for the website, organized art gallery shows and movie premiers, has been tapped to be an evo staff concierge for a couple of the Niseko evotrips, and he has a hand in their social media stuff. If the shop dude you spoke with doesn't know who he is, ask to speak to a manager.
As far as I am concerned, Gentems and Mosses are $1k+ snowboards that aren't like other boards. If a retailer wants to sell them, then setting up demo days is a smart sales strategy. Otherwise, they're expecting consumers to buy weird, expensive boards without any ability to tell if it's something that they're gonna enjoy. Not many of us are going to take that risk.
Evo touts their "great eight" core values ( https://www.evo.com/info/the_great_eight) as their guiding principles and the foundation of their efforts to be a unique player in this retail space. Challenge the people at evo Denver to live up to their own value system and the benchmarks being set by their peers in Seattle. Don't be subtle cool guy. Be the guy who has high expectations and who sincerely invites evo to step up to the plate. If they do, reward them with loyalty and buy stuff there. If you're not serious about potentially buying a Gentem or a Moss, it may not be appropriate to ask for the opportunity to demo one for free. I'm not sure about the Gentem demo, but I've been told that about three quarters of us who went to the Moss demo ended up buying a Moss from evo. I know for sure that I did and four of my friends did.
Also, for me, if I worked at evo Denver, I would be STOKED to hear that we may be able to do demos like this. At both the Gentem demo and the Moss demo, Stuuu and another dude or two from the shop, along with brand reps, were right there riding the boards with us. People were stoked and had a blast. Some of us, including Stuuu and a couple of dudes from the shop, have had multiple parties (including a pig roast) since then. We got to ride with a bunch of Japanese pro snowboarders and snowboard filmmakers. Seriously rad stuff!
5’9 (176cm) - 172Ibs - (78kg) - Goofy - US 9.5 B SLX, 9 Ion, B Cartel, Genesis, Now Pilot (med). Taper, camber, pow shapes
I am confused. Some people say Gentems are made in China, and some descriptions on evo say handmade in Niseko, for example for the Stingray. Which is true? Or depends on model?
Depends on model. Many made in China and 'finished in Japan' - those are better quality compared with ones made in Niseko
Thanks! I am used to everything Japanese hand-made being more expensive than machine / China - true for fountain pens, jeans, razors, stuff with lacquer, whatever. And I always thought the quality is not necessarily better but they claim "soul" and other mystic stuff. So no carbon and high tech materials and Chinese labour but still high price tag for the unique design and ride feel.
i would say that the wood core quality/type/combination is more crucial for the ride quality than all other parts of the board (sidewalls, fiberglass, carbon, etc) combined
The core profiling is pretty key too, though, having not built any boards myself, I don't know how much one can attribute to the wood vs the composite layers. To me, it's almost like asking 'what is more important, your heart or your lungs?' The answer is, 'I don't know, but I'm glad I have both.' Haha.