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13/09/2019 9:02 pm  

Got to play around with the new Nitro Quiver series today. The Banker isn't as stiff as I thought it would be (from hand flexing at centre, at least). Felt just a hair stiffer than the Squash, but barely noticeable imo. Feels a lot like the Dump Truck, actually (same ww @ 25.6cm also), but with just a bigger sidecut.

The Fusion decks look really good this year, too. The whole 2020 Quiver series, really.

 

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13/09/2019 9:35 pm  
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how can we stop TGR links from being posted here

 

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I agree, those douche bags should be beat with a rubber hose...

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14/09/2019 11:41 am  

Imho. Everyone here should do review vids. More knowledge and experience here than most places. And it would be interesting (at least to me) to see the multiple reviews of the same boards and (possibly) how differently they get ridden.

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14/09/2019 3:41 pm  

i'd love to see a 3-4 minute on the table type review by someone who actually understood board design and could articulate how the individual elements were coming together with a particular board.  

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14/09/2019 3:43 pm  
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....  but i really like the idea of pulling the nose in.  

I imagine it always wanting to turn uphill against the fall line.... 

yeah that makes sense now that you mention it and it was the goal for me.  again, not something i want all the time but fun for certain uses. 

 

you said something similar in a past post about this sort of tail being used in giant slalom boards (or something similar) for hold in ice/hard snow.    i'm struggling to wrap my head around this part.  

The idea is sort of like the opposite of a tapered tail.   If you ride a tapered board with the same evenly-stacked weighting as a non-tapered board, the tail feels comparatively washy because, with all other things being equal, you will be applying less pressure to the rear edge than you are to the front edge.  That is why you tend to ride tapered boards off the tail more on hard snow (i.e. apply more pressure to the back foot and/or initiate back foot pressure earlier in the turn than you would on a board with twin contact widths).  That is also why tapered boards release turns more easily and want to be pointed down fall line more.

I assume the opposite is true of a reverse tapered board. So, if you ride a reverse tapered board with the same evenly-stacked weighting as a twin contact board, I would assume that the tail will grip more and want to hold onto turns for longer.  That is the idea behind those reverse tapered, ice-oriented alpine freecarving boards - they maintain grip on ice because the tails are grabby.  Probably not the best option for slalom, though, as I think you want your board to release turns easily to set up for the next turn quickly.  Then again, I have no experience in that realm, so it's all just conjecture on my part.

thanks.  that's a good explanation.  

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16/09/2019 2:42 pm  

The only boards that first come to mind that had reverse taper, were  alpine models from Freesurf and Inca a long time ago. And they didn't last very long. Contrary to popular belief, most modern alpine racing and carving boards, as well as boardercross boards, have a good amount of taper and setback. They generaly have between 15mm and 20mm taper, and some like the SG race/carve line-up have up to 60mm of setback. That is often more taper and setback than what the standard snowboarder has on what he considers his "pow board"... 😉

And also why pow boards are now so popular for carving. The boards used by those two opposite extremes in riding styles share some common basic specs: taper, setback, and early rise.

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16/09/2019 5:01 pm  

Reminds me… always find it funny when people question how a board can possibly be good for powder and carving within the same design.  Little do they know, like you said, those two styles actually share their major traits in common.


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16/09/2019 9:18 pm  

The only manufacturers that I know of that produce reverse tapered boards right now aside from Elevated are OES and Pogo, who both have a few freecarving models with approximately 5 mms.  It's definitely pretty obscure.


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17/09/2019 11:19 am  

Thanks! I did not know that OES and Pogo were doing it!

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17/09/2019 8:36 pm  

wow.  some of those pogo designs are crazy.  and they definitely have my favorite website disclaimer:

"Shipping to foreign countries might be more expensive because of überlength."

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24/09/2019 4:40 pm  

Rome Ravine looks like a fun ripper. And the features on the Katana & Salomon Halogram look interesting, wish the demos here had them.

 

 

 

 

Personally find the vid quality of the Whitelines reviews are the best of the lot that's available. Plus, the riders in the vids look pretty solid too (esp from a freestyle pov). 

 

 

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24/09/2019 5:00 pm  

ravine is sick, but pretty dang soft

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24/09/2019 9:45 pm  

Yep, Whitelines videos are legit. Those guys can actually snowboard 😜


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24/09/2019 11:44 pm  
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ravine is sick, but pretty dang soft

Alex's pro model Ravine 155 is supposed to be stiffer. 

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25/09/2019 6:38 am  

There should be a late-ish release too that is "upgraded" with a better base as well..from what I was told.  If Alex's graphic wasn't so ugly I would have grabbed one.

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