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10/09/2019 2:20 pm  

I hate the fact that I just looked at the Elevated website and got so much more pissed off than I expected.  That website, their marketing and the nonsensical strained attempts to latch on to anything related to surfboard design is absolutely my trigger.  Move over ubiquitous B arm, you've met your match and its Elevated Surfcraft's entire existence.  "Hang ten!"...while your fucking feet are bolted down.  

https://elevatedsurfcraft.com/pages/about

I mean holy shit, come on.

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10/09/2019 2:57 pm  
Posted by: RK

has anyone ridden the elevated shortboard?  i'm really interested in this design despite the obnoxious marketing and asinine use of imperial units.  

There are some reviews of it at : http://shapersummit.com/product-tag/elevated/

FWIW

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10/09/2019 3:06 pm  

@soymateo , agreed.  i hesitated to bring it up.  i can't tell if he's serious.    

 

@c-fuzzy, thanks!  those shaper summit reviews are all positive.  knowing nothing about it, is it generally a lovefest or do people get critical?  clicked on some other reviews and most seemed to be 6/7.  

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10/09/2019 3:18 pm  
Posted by: SoyMateo

I hate the fact that I just looked at the Elevated website and got so much more pissed off than I expected.  That website, their marketing and the nonsensical strained attempts to latch on to anything related to surfboard design is absolutely my trigger.  Move over ubiquitous B arm, you've met your match and its Elevated Surfcraft's entire existence.  "Hang ten!"...while your fucking feet are bolted down.  

https://elevatedsurfcraft.com/pages/about

I mean holy shit, come on.

Damn that is bad. Maybe pointy surfy boards have jumped the shark. I thought some of Korua's marketing spiel was getting pseudo-intellectual but that is even worse. 


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10/09/2019 3:19 pm  

well, had to look no further than the bataleon reviews to find people who openly hate tbt...

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10/09/2019 3:23 pm  
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@soymateo , agreed.  i hesitated to bring it up.  i can't tell if he's serious.    

 

@c-fuzzy, thanks!  those shaper summit reviews are all positive.  knowing nothing about it, is it generally a lovefest or do people get critical?  clicked on some other reviews and most seemed to be 6/7.  

It's hard to know how to take anyone review on a board, and with the shapersummit guys are generally only reviewing a handful of boards so you can't really get a good feel for their style, or skill, or other things that would indicate how much credence to give their words. There are fully legit pro or ex-pro riders that attend the shaper summit, and then there seem to be some that seem rather inexperienced. So... that's why I said fwiw. It's something. 

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10/09/2019 4:24 pm  
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well, had to look no further than the bataleon reviews to find people who openly hate tbt...

That base design is the only snowboard technology that I actively dislike. I can deal with just about anything else outside of my preferences, but I honestly hate that shit. For me personally, it’s simply exactly the opposite of what I want.


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10/09/2019 5:17 pm  

i hear that a lot, and understand.  i actually have two specific use cases* for which it works great - both involve low speeds - but it's not something i want all the time.  

 

*one is being out with two young kids.  when they're all over the place, going different directions, in crowds, it's nice that it's basically impossible to catch an edge when i'm keeping an eye on them.  when i'm responsible only for myself i ride something else.  

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10/09/2019 6:38 pm  

what the fuck is the purpose of reverse taper

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10/09/2019 7:42 pm  

More edge hold through the tail, I presume, though there are different means of achieving that.  I know that some alpine carving boards have reverse taper to give them to lend crazy edge hold on ice, but you have to go pretty far down the hardboot rabbit hole before you reach that place.

I imagine it feeling kinda weird, like oversteering into turns and understeering out.  Might feel cool, but I don't know.  Don't know if I want to know, really.  Haha.

It must be a bitch getting started in deep snow.  Prepare for intense leg burn.

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10/09/2019 8:02 pm  

@alonzo i was about to quote you from last year!  

 

i'm terrible at articulating these things but here...

basically, i take the design as a whole to be back foot driven but still have a tail, which one can leverage (as opposed to the pq54, back foot driven no tail).  with the pulled in nose and fat ass it looks like it will whip around off the tail.  i see a lot of value pulling in the nose for what i'm trying to do on certain days, basically push it as straight uphill as possible before whipping it around.  i have a very specific use case for this one.   as in there is literally one run here that this could be a game changer. 

if the board was $500 i'd probably  just go for it.  when it starts approaching moss prices it's a different story.  

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11/09/2019 10:25 am  

Not sure what you're describing @unsatisfiedus? The Moss PQ boards aren't reverse taper. They're regular taper. The PQ64 has a nose that's 24 mm wider than its tail (316 vs 292). It's also not completely lacking a tail. Sure, it's a very directional board, but the camber zone does go several cm past the rear inserts and the rear contact points are a few cm past that.


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11/09/2019 11:42 am  

yup, terrible at articulating these things.  i was referring more to use than design in that both boards appear to be turned off the back foot.  clearly very different designs.  

that and i guess both are pretty expensive. if i'm going to spend a bunch of money on a very specific use board i'd probably go with the proven brand with reasonable marketing.  but i really like the idea of pulling the nose in.  

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11/09/2019 11:54 am  

get some taper, some camber, and whip that thing

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11/09/2019 12:01 pm  
Posted by: RK

....  but i really like the idea of pulling the nose in.  

I imagine it always wanting to turn uphill against the fall line, which doesn't appeal to me at all, really, expect I can picture it being really fun for slashing banks in soft snow at speed.  In harder snow, the reverse taper will likely make the tail harder to push around.   

I would love to take one for a spin to see how it feels, but I wouldn't buy one to guinea pig, as my hopes aren't high. 


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