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Bopuc
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28/05/2018 4:33 am  

From a Union CS rep:

Falcor: More stiff front to back than the Strata. Medium flex side to side on the baseplate. 

Strata: Still stiff front to back but not as stiff as the Faclor. More soft and surfy side to side than the Falcor. Super damp underfoot and more board feel than the Falcor. 

I’ve been riding the Strata all season and have been blown away by it’s performance and board feel. It rides like nothing else I’ve ever stepped into. Super good board feel, especially for surfing pow 🙂 


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29/05/2018 8:31 am  

Also worth noting that for the full-sized-disc bindings, like the Atlas or Force, you can run the discs to either have micro-adjustability nose to tail OR heel to toe. I actually run them heel to toe, as I prefer to really fine tune how centered I am over my board.

As for Union selling their exoframe straps, that's not really part of their stated business model. Both Union and Capita have established that their production runs are based on pre-orders from their retail partners, and what stock they will need for very limited retail sales in their own shop, proforms, demos, trade show stock, and warranties. They do have parts and part kits for their bindings, but that is primarily stock for their retailers to be able to order from so that they have repair parts on hand to support customers. Keeping their retail partners happy and healthy, and helping to get customer orders in those retail partners' doors, is a big part of what C3 does. They're much more focused on supporting their retailers than they are on direct to consumer sales.

Sure, it's awesome for the consumer that Burton produces so much product that much of it can fairly easily be found at end of season sales and there is a deep stock of various binding parts available for sale. Burton's business model is different than Union's or Capita's in those regards. If your expectations are based on how Burton does business, then sticking with them as your preferred brand of snowboard equipment is probably your best bet.


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29/05/2018 10:08 am  

Re Unions straps: I like Force straps just fine.  

The worst straps are actually the Exoframe (not to be confused with the Exoframe /Air that Honcho wanted) that came on my 2017 Superpros.   They're the same straps as on current Atlas and are way too thick and stiff.  Straps never broke in and I didn't love the Contact Pro baseplate so I sold those on.

If anything, I find my 2016 Teams ride much like Burton Cartels but with better straps.  

Force straps >>> old Cartel Reactstraps


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29/05/2018 12:47 pm  
Posted by: matty

Also worth noting that for the full-sized-disc bindings, like the Atlas or Force, you can run the discs to either have micro-adjustability nose to tail OR heel to toe. I actually run them heel to toe, as I prefer to really fine tune how centered I am over my board.

 

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29/05/2018 12:51 pm  
Posted by: Wes B.

Re Unions straps: I like Force straps just fine.  

The worst straps are actually the Exoframe (not to be confused with the Exoframe /Air that Honcho wanted) that came on my 2017 Superpros.   They're the same straps as on current Atlas and are way too thick and stiff.  Straps never broke in and I didn't love the Contact Pro baseplate so I sold those on.

If anything, I find my 2016 Teams ride much like Burton Cartels but with better straps.  

Force straps >>> old Cartel Reactstraps

I like the older type of Atlas straps, a bit wider than the Forces one.

I have them on a Yellow Team Force. I also franken my Gorilla Forces with that kind of Atlas straps, so I have two identical pairs of bindings


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20/06/2018 3:27 pm  
Posted by: Bopuc

I usually spring for the stiffer stuff, but might like something softer.

 

that's what she said! 🤣  🤣  🤣 

Posted by: Wes B.

Re Unions straps: I like Force straps just fine.  

The worst straps are actually the Exoframe (not to be confused with the Exoframe /Air that Honcho wanted) that came on my 2017 Superpros.   They're the same straps as on current Atlas and are way too thick and stiff.  Straps never broke in and I didn't love the Contact Pro baseplate so I sold those on.

If anything, I find my 2016 Teams ride much like Burton Cartels but with better straps.  

Force straps >>> old Cartel Reactstraps

i'm still always blown away when people say they like force straps. to me, they're the most uncomfortable foot torture i've ever endured while sliding down a hill. i have purple cartels from 2010 and those straps are just fine. i guess it's just the placement of the strap over the foot on the forces? maybe if that were adjustable like on burton binders i wouldn't have an issue, but they're not and i get top foot pains after about 20 min. of being strapped in. i have many pairs of unions- superforces, contact pros, new and old atlases... all are good but the forces.


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21/06/2018 4:33 am  

Might have to get a set of those tittie binders with the hanging loose shirt piece on the backside of the highbacks. 


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21/06/2018 5:27 am  

I've given several Union models a spin over the last decade or so, and always end up going back to Burton. I love the look of Unions (especially the Team models) and it's rad to see a bunch of my favourite riders on their squad, but that's about as far as my love goes. 

Whenever I ride a non-Burton board, I always feel the pang to give Unions another shot, then always feel mildly disappointed when I do. 

That being said, those "Yearning for Turning" videos make me wanna grab a pair for my Koruas. Guess I'm the idiot, then. 


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21/06/2018 1:00 pm  
Posted by: awd1105 

That being said, those "Yearning for Turning" videos make me wanna grab a pair for my Koruas. Guess I'm the idiot, then. 

Haha, yep. You and me both brother 😅.


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21/06/2018 10:06 pm  

Yes same for me. Never had a solid union experience, but easy to get hyped on them. Actually got off burtons as well and mainly ride nitros. Got a pair of teams that work like a dream. 


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21/06/2018 11:32 pm  

trying other binding brands now and then but allways going back to unions.

factory and contact pro are the faves.


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25/06/2018 8:45 pm  

as much as I enjoyed the fluxes i snagged this year, i’ll probably be grabbing some Strata’s this fall. 

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26/06/2018 4:57 pm  
Posted by: awd1105

I've given several Union models a spin over the last decade or so, and always end up going back to Burton. I love the look of Unions (especially the Team models) and it's rad to see a bunch of my favourite riders on their squad, but that's about as far as my love goes. 

Whenever I ride a non-Burton board, I always feel the pang to give Unions another shot, then always feel mildly disappointed when I do. 

That being said, those "Yearning for Turning" videos make me wanna grab a pair for my Koruas. Guess I'm the idiot, then. 

give the new atlas a try if you can. maybe scoop a used pair off ebay. i really like them. nice middle ground of response and flex. contact pros are nice too, but i have the first year's and haven't ridden the newer ones with the different highback design.


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26/06/2018 5:33 pm  
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Posted by: awd1105

I've given several Union models a spin over the last decade or so, and always end up going back to Burton. I love the look of Unions (especially the Team models) and it's rad to see a bunch of my favourite riders on their squad, but that's about as far as my love goes. 

Whenever I ride a non-Burton board, I always feel the pang to give Unions another shot, then always feel mildly disappointed when I do. 

That being said, those "Yearning for Turning" videos make me wanna grab a pair for my Koruas. Guess I'm the idiot, then. 

give the new atlas a try if you can. maybe scoop a used pair off ebay. i really like them. nice middle ground of response and flex. contact pros are nice too, but i have the first year's and haven't ridden the newer ones with the different highback design.

Aside from the Genies, I think my other personal fave bindings are the Atlas'. But mainly the model from the last 2 yrs before the exoframe straps. Not as keen on this past year's and the upcoming one as I personally find it too dead feeling underfoot/ baseplate. Will be demoing the Stratas beginning of next szn tho, to see what all the hype is about.


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20/09/2018 2:39 pm  

anybody see the team stratas? basically the black ones with a big white "U" logo on the back. stil has all the little holes though. there were a couple used pairs that already sold on ebay; one selling for $375.

also a St. Ides custom house pair, if you're a snowboarder from Sacramento...


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