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29/08/2019 2:07 pm  

Yep, it was a little to"over engineered" as one reviewer said, so we put a screw in instead to keep it simple.  Also we shortened the length of the baseplate pad on the larger size to keep the board overhang to a minimum.  Still fits big boots nicely, but less material hanging over the board.

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29/08/2019 4:20 pm  

My issue was user error. I went night riding the second time I used my stratas, and I was still playing around with my forward lean settings on-hill that night. I didn't fully twist the twist-lock button closed after adjusting (couldn't see well enough at night), and the little teeth didn't fully engage between the adjuster and the highback. As a result, a couple of the teeth got broken, the rest were bent, and the broken teeth jammed the mechanism. I took it apart and cleaned out the broken bits and it worked fine after putting it back together. Still, a simple mechanism is often more user-friendly and more durable.


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29/08/2019 4:35 pm  
Posted by: Nose Dradamous

Yep, it was a little to"over engineered" as one reviewer said, so we put a screw in instead to keep it simple.  Also we shortened the length of the baseplate pad on the larger size to keep the board overhang to a minimum.  Still fits big boots nicely, but less material hanging over the board.

Glad you guys did something about the baseplate pad. Started last season on a pair of large Strata and I had so much overhang on anything but my widest boards. Even my Orca at 26.7 ww had a bit of overhang. I switched boots mid season to a much smaller profile boot so picked up a pair of mediums and they work great for my size 10.5 Ride Fuse.

Switching topics. I snagged a pair of '19 medium Ultras over the summer. Tried to mount them up to a '19 Spring Break Twin, but the hardware is too short. Essentially I have to mount a few of the screws without the washers to get any bite on the inserts. Then I can start adding in the washers, but even then I only get maybe a half to one full rotation on the insert. I don't have a lot of confidence in that interface.

My Strata mount up just fine and the Ultras mount up just fine to all my other boards including my Charlie. Seems to me the inserts on the Twin are recessed more than any of my other boards.

 

 


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29/08/2019 6:15 pm  
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Posted by: Nose Dradamous

Yep, it was a little to"over engineered" as one reviewer said, so we put a screw in instead to keep it simple.  Also we shortened the length of the baseplate pad on the larger size to keep the board overhang to a minimum.  Still fits big boots nicely, but less material hanging over the board.

Glad you guys did something about the baseplate pad. Started last season on a pair of large Strata and I had so much overhang on anything but my widest boards. Even my Orca at 26.7 ww had a bit of overhang. I switched boots mid season to a much smaller profile boot so picked up a pair of mediums and they work great for my size 10.5 Ride Fuse.

Switching topics. I snagged a pair of '19 medium Ultras over the summer. Tried to mount them up to a '19 Spring Break Twin, but the hardware is too short. Essentially I have to mount a few of the screws without the washers to get any bite on the inserts. Then I can start adding in the washers, but even then I only get maybe a half to one full rotation on the insert. I don't have a lot of confidence in that interface.

My Strata mount up just fine and the Ultras mount up just fine to all my other boards including my Charlie. Seems to me the inserts on the Twin are recessed more than any of my other boards.

 

 

Definitely harder to screw twins

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10/09/2019 8:23 pm  
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I want to try a mini disc unions in the same way I want to try that new thing at the restaurant because I always get what I know I like and it seems like I'm in a rut, but I'm also pretty sure it'll be sort of unremarkable which is why every time I do that I tell myself next time I should just get what I know I already like.  

i tried the mini disc on a set of medium contact pros, , i was riding an arbor iguchi 159, and with the discs all the way to the toe edge, and heel cups all the way in, my toes where parallel to the edge and i was all heel overhang, i want to try some Stratas, but this is what would make me test mount them first


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10/09/2019 8:29 pm  

I don’t even know how that’s possible. They had to have been larges.


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11/09/2019 4:56 pm  

what size boots are you in, Natas?

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12/09/2019 5:13 am  
Posted by: coleslawed

what size boots are you in, Natas?

9.5 or 10 depends on the brand


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12/09/2019 2:25 pm  

Definitely had to have been larges, then. I have been a size 9 boot forever, have had contacts and pros among lots of others. Disc was always running tip to tail, so centered edge to edge, and I believe on contacts I had the heelcup in the middle position for perfect toe and heel centering. The only difference with force/atlas/etc was I think I had the heelcup even further out to get the boots centered.

If I tried larges, I’m pretty sure what would happen is exactly what you described 

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12/09/2019 7:53 pm  
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Definitely had to have been larges, then. I have been a size 9 boot forever, have had contacts and pros among lots of others. Disc was always running tip to tail, so centered edge to edge, and I believe on contacts I had the heelcup in the middle position for perfect toe and heel centering. The only difference with force/atlas/etc was I think I had the heelcup even further out to get the boots centered.

If I tried larges, I’m pretty sure what would happen is exactly what you described 

well i don't remember witch way the slots ran i have had four pairs of unions and had to ditch them all for some reason, but they where defiantly mediums, because i have worn large bindings forever and the first gen contact i tried where larges and had to trade a kid out because boot foot prints started shrinking and i was on that size split and had to drop size bindings, you don't forget having to ditch all of those older binding all of a sudden

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these ones if i wanted my toes to over hang at all, the bindings had to over hang too, that is why i remember getting rid of them, so with i think where 9.5 burtons, and the heelcup all the way in, my toes where at the front of these bindings, that is why if i where going to try some strata it would be on a wide board, thinking about maybe a wide Ride MTN, try those padded bases on the inlay impact plates


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14/09/2019 2:31 pm  

if i remember right, i set my bindings at 0, clamped them to the deck, then rotated the disc 90 etched a new 0 point with and awl to see what type of offset i could get that way and that is what sent my binding from parallel to over the edge, because i'm that level of nerd


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24/09/2019 2:36 am  

just received a new 2020 pair of Force.

Looks great

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I'm curious about the canting, I never had canted bindings

However, it's good to see a binding like the Force (that looks pretty much the same) evolve over the years. I had few pair of force (around 2014/15) and this new one is evolved in every piece, apart the base and the highback. And maybe they evolved also the materials and the blend of the base.

I'm also curious about the new ankle straps (coming from 2014/15, they are different in shape)

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24/09/2019 4:47 am  

I'm giving Union another spin this upcoming season. In the past, I'd be influenced by a number of factors to grab a pair, only to be disappointed and inevitably go back to using Burtons. I've spent the last 4-5 seasons riding Burton boards exclusively, so I'd just use ESTs and Union never really turned my head.

Last season, I finally started to inch away from Burton boards and made the Korua CR my daily driver. Maybe it was watching all the YFT videos on repeat, but seeing the majority of their riders pairing their decks with Union Teams, I decided to grab a pair of the Progress FC binders from another EL-er. Right off the bat, it seems like Union did everything to address the issues I had in the past. Fingers crossed.  

Ontario | Boots: Driver X | Bindings: Genesis X, Union Progress FC | Boards: CaféRacer & CaféRacer+ 159 / Pencil 164 / LandLord 163


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24/09/2019 6:14 am  

@vanni I normally hate canted bindings but on the Forces, I didn't mind it at all.  It feels pretty subtle underfoot and I never really seemed to notice it much.  It reminded me of the autocant footbeds that Burton used to make (do they still make them that way..?) and I liked those a lot.

@GD I feel that Union continues to improve every year aside from the ankle straps.  The Progress FC look rad, if I needed a binding that stiff I'd consider them.  How do you like your ESTs?  I swore by them when I first got a pair, but then the way the flex point felt outside of my foot made me move away from them and go back to strictly Unions.

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24/09/2019 6:44 am  
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@vanni I normally hate canted bindings but on the Forces, I didn't mind it at all.  It feels pretty subtle underfoot and I never really seemed to notice it much.  It reminded me of the autocant footbeds that Burton used to make (do they still make them that way..?) and I liked those a lot.

did you already tried the 2020 Force?

it's the first year the Force has the canting

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