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10/03/2018 10:45 am  

does that mean good or bad


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11/03/2018 5:45 pm  

Anyone can compare Tump Truck and Panhandler? Found them for €399. Also would love comparison with Branch Manager. It is surprisingly very few info and almost no reviews and videos on Dump Truck.

 

PS: I'm 100kg rider looking for a freeride/powderboard. Want something quick for Japanese trees. If it can hold speed on groomers - will be huge ++ 🙂 Got very good help in powderbord thread but now I narrowed down my selection to those Burton models. Cheers.

 

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11/03/2018 8:02 pm  
Posted by: Alex

Anyone can compare Tump Truck and Panhandler? Found them for €399. Also would love comparison with Branch Manager. It is surprisingly very few info and almost no reviews and videos on Dump Truck.

 

PS: I'm 100kg rider looking for a freeride/powderboard. Want something quick for Japanese trees. If it can hold speed on groomers - will be huge ++ 🙂 Got very good help in powderbord thread but now I narrowed down my selection to those Burton models. Cheers.

 

Both very different boards. 

Panhandler is wider, floatier (a ton of float), softer, more forgiving, easier to pop & butter. This board is mad fun.

Dump Truck is a real freeride powder board. Stiffer, almost full camber, regular width. A more serious board that can handle a lot more terrain.

 

For Japan trees fun I would say Panhandler; but because you're looking for a freeride board and want speed and groomers, then Dump Truck no doubt.

The Branch Manager is some sort of cross between the Fish and Landlord. It kind of has the width, sidecut and short edge like a Fish, but with the stiffness, carbon, camber and tail like a Landlord.

 

 

 

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12/03/2018 1:28 am  

That blackscales linked to on the previous page is a joke, right?!

 

When I bought my gold fish 156cm, I paid 200€ for a brand new one (never used before!) and there was a second one (162 cm) up for sale (used three days) for 230€ at the same time.

If you're looking for a fish, you'll definitely find a way better offer than a beaten and damaged one for 200+ Euros..

 

edit: there's a 2015 retro fish (brand new) for 230€

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/burton-retro-fish-156-2015-neu-/825727184-230-222

 

And here's a 157cm NOFISH for 180€ in good condition:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/burton-lib-tech-hammock-fish-hammer-powder/758190599-230-7886

 

 

ps: these are not my offers and I've got no idea who these guys are.

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12/03/2018 3:50 pm  

@flea thanks a lot!

I think I'll stick to Dump Truck then - I ride 30/70 piste/off-piste last 5 years but I don't have a proper freeride board. 
Do you think Dump Truck 158 will float equally or better than Lib Tech 161.5 T. Rice Pointy? I really want something floatier but smaller for easy tree runs. I afraid that 163 with its shovel nose will be quite heavy and difficult to turn in tight spaces.


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12/03/2018 3:56 pm  

it should float more naturally, because of the setback, 15mm taper, early rise nose, overall shape, etc

The t-rice is just a twin with rocker. Good for powder freestyle in both directions, but the dump truck is specifically engineered to be a well-floating freeride board


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12/03/2018 4:09 pm  

Would you go for 158 or 163? 100kg/225lbs (without equipment). 
It's a shame I can't try it before buying 🙁 We don't even have a single boardshop in Ireland (technically there is one with very limited choice).


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12/03/2018 4:29 pm  

^ 163.


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12/03/2018 4:38 pm  
Posted by: Spenser

it should float more naturally, because of the setback, 15mm taper, early rise nose, overall shape, etc

The t-rice is just a twin with rocker. Good for powder freestyle in both directions, but the dump truck is specifically engineered to be a well-floating freeride board

What he said ^

But... do you want "quick to turn in tight spaces" or "float and speed on groomers" ??

At your weight, I would not get a 158 Dump Truck for Japanese trees. You need a ton of float for those conditions.

So if you want quick turning, then get 156 Panhandler. If you want speed and groomers, then 163 Dump Truck. Both of these will keep you afloat.


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12/03/2018 5:02 pm  
Posted by: Alex

Would you go for 158 or 163? 100kg/225lbs (without equipment). 
It's a shame I can't try it before buying 🙁 We don't even have a single boardshop in Ireland (technically there is one with very limited choice).

163 with out question


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12/03/2018 6:33 pm  

Where are you riding Japanese trees? Hokkaido or somewhere in Honshu? If you're in Hokkaido you should probably prioritize float and go for something with a swallow tail. If you're in Honshu you can sacrifice some float for more aggressive geometry.

I haven't ridden the dump truck or panhandler, but I have a branch manager 155 I ride in Niigata / Nagano when I'm setting out on tree missions. It's a weird board--floats but requires balance, great for 100 turn in 100 meters or straightlining but not for drawn out turns, controlling the edge in hard conditions can be annoying but it makes it super easy to slash around when conditions are good. If you're in Honshu and have other boards to ride when conditions are off, it's a great quiver board.

e: I'm around 70kg. You should probably skip the BM, it'll be too twitchy.

If you have trouble getting a board, I have a camrock '09 160 fish ltd I could sell ya at cost.

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12/03/2018 7:59 pm  

Go for the 163.

 I ride Japan (Hokkaido) trees every year (today actually!) It gets deep in the trees but is generally not overly steep. I’m 88kg and riding a 162 Flight Attendant.

as long as it is set back and tapered you should be all good.


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13/03/2018 4:40 am  

Thanks everyone.

Will order Dump Truck 163 then 🙂 I ride in Hokkaido, Nagano trees were too steep/dense for me. Going to Austria this weekend will get it delivered there.

@sxjp thanks for the offer. Right now I need one freeride board. A have too many boards at home for a country where it snows once in 5 years 🙂


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13/03/2018 2:24 pm  
Posted by: Alex

Thanks everyone.

Will order Dump Truck 163 then 🙂 I ride in Hokkaido, Nagano trees were too steep/dense for me. Going to Austria this weekend will get it delivered there.

@sxjp thanks for the offer. Right now I need one freeride board. A have too many boards at home for a country where it snows once in 5 years 🙂

Having ridden both the Austrian Alps and Hokkaido, I think you're going to have to compromise somewhere and consider splitting out 'freeride' and 'powder' boards. In the Alps you're looking at above-treeline, big mountain riding with higher-density snow. In Hokkaido, you're looking at lower altitude, dense trees, mellow terrain, and low-density snow. Different boards are going to excel in either condition.

I'm roughly your size (about 5 kg / 10 lbs lighter) and personally in the Alps I'd be on something burly like a Gnu Billy Goat 164. In Hokkaido, I'd pick on a snow-surf short fat swallow like a Jones Storm Chaser, K2 Cool Bean, Rossi Sushi, Moss Performance Quad, etc. Maybe something a little less extreme like a Mind Expander 58.

That's not to say you can't ride both conditions on one board, but something to keep in mind.


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13/03/2018 4:47 pm  

If I read the thread correctly, @Alex you have a 61.5 Trice and you were wanting a shorter pow board...but you ended up with a 163 Dump Truck!! Doesn't make sense.


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