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17/11/2018 12:22 am  
Posted by: awd1105

Considering I'm generally a bigger fan of tapered freeride shapes, I thought the CX would've been the odd one out of that bunch. I guess I'm a sucker for that 45-degree carbon... I'd be all over an "X" version of the FA or SK. 

A Malolo X would be a cool option too.

 


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17/11/2018 1:44 am  
Posted by: Lonz

A Malolo X would be a cool option too.

Doesn't sound very compelling. Why would you want to stiffen up a pow deck so much?

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17/11/2018 10:48 am  

I like the concept of pow-capable boards that can still handle aggressive turns as all-arounders.  If you can achieve float through taper and profile, then you can stiffen things up for carving performance and riding pow really fast. 


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17/11/2018 4:10 pm  
Posted by: Lonz

I like the concept of pow-capable boards that can still handle aggressive turns as all-arounders.  If you can achieve float through taper and profile, then you can stiffen things up for carving performance and riding pow really fast. 

That board is a Landlord or Dump Truck.

 

The LL is a little bit more dynamic, the DT is a bit more stable.


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17/11/2018 4:15 pm  
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Posted by: Lonz

A Malolo X would be a cool option too.

Doesn't sound very compelling. Why would you want to stiffen up a pow deck so much?

Because at that level they become Freeride sticks. That's the Jones kind of boards or the LL and DT. I like the LL and DT way better than most Jones boards because the Burtons have more setback and taper, tighter side cut and a more snappy core. So they are stiff and responsive, but do not feel like planks because they're very turny and dynamic.

 

For surfy... ahem... surfy pow  Burton does the Fish, Skipjack, Panhandker, Bottom Feeder, etc etc. 

Jones has definitely spiced up their line though. Used to be really badass oriented, now they have a solid range of boards...

 

 

 


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17/11/2018 6:37 pm  

Or get an old cambered malolo, 2009 if you want camber & channel. Noticeably stiffer than the later ones.

Who wants a softer pow board? Gross 🤪 

And the fish might be “surfy,” but I also think that’s kind of a misconception at the same time. It rips balls. Truly one of my favorite carving boards I’ve ever ridden. Obviously it’s not like a longer, really aggressive carving board, but fuck me if it doesn’t rail like magic. More along the lines of shorter Japanese carving shapes, I guess. And the cambered ones.... they are stiff. Midwide-ish, full camber, stiff, 30mm taper.... Korua before there was Korua

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I know no one is doubting the fish, I just tend to take every opportunity to stand up for it 😁

riding the goldfish 160 for the first time at baker, damn that’s a ripper. made the Mullair 161 feel easy-going

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17/11/2018 8:09 pm  

so......

 

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17/11/2018 8:39 pm  

WTF

are those leftover samples or something? I know that destroyer graphic, but I don’t remember it ever have a channel. or who TF is pumping these out

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17/11/2018 8:42 pm  
Posted by: coleslawed

so......

 

https://www.the-house.com/search.html?keywords=forum&page=1&refine=y&Category=Snowboards

I'm not buying one until the whole Forum 8 Team is back on. No Jive.

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17/11/2018 8:57 pm  

Sometimes it’s okay to let things die


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18/11/2018 8:28 am  
Posted by: Spenser

And the fish might be “surfy,” but I also think that’s kind of a misconception at the same time. It rips balls. Truly one of my favorite carving boards I’ve ever ridden. Obviously it’s not like a longer, really aggressive carving board, but fuck me if it doesn’t rail like magic. More along the lines of shorter Japanese carving shapes, I guess. And the cambered ones.... they are stiff. Midwide-ish, full camber, stiff, 30mm taper.... Korua before there was Korua

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18/11/2018 8:47 am  

never get sick of that video 

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18/11/2018 8:52 am  
Posted by: Spenser

Or get an old cambered malolo, 2009 if you want camber & channel. Noticeably stiffer than the later ones.

Who wants a softer pow board? Gross 🤪 

And the fish might be “surfy,” but I also think that’s kind of a misconception at the same time. It rips balls. Truly one of my favorite carving boards I’ve ever ridden. Obviously it’s not like a longer, really aggressive carving board, but fuck me if it doesn’t rail like magic. More along the lines of shorter Japanese carving shapes, I guess. And the cambered ones.... they are stiff. Midwide-ish, full camber, stiff, 30mm taper.... Korua before there was Korua

ADA66D70 464B 4176 9B0B E08FB5EACAAB

I know no one is doubting the fish, I just tend to take every opportunity to stand up for it 😁

riding the goldfish 160 for the first time at baker, damn that’s a ripper. made the Mullair 161 feel easy-going

its a "misconception" only to dumb people who don't know how to snowboard. the same things that makes a board "surfy" are the same things that make it rip groomers. taper, good sidecut and setback. sure stupid toy boards like the sushi and terrapin are exceptions but its because of their tiny attributes.

i don't know if its intentional to start to marginalizing snowboards as so specialized as a marketing tool to sell more or if its consumer driven but its annoying. 

the 'review' sites aren't helping either, most of them are talking about how "directional" the mercury this year and are framing it more like a traditional freeride board. stupid.


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18/11/2018 8:53 am  
Posted by: coleslawed

from what i’ve heard CAPiTA received a lot of grants from the Austrian gov’t that helped fund the mothership. they’re one of the biggest employers in the region, and i’m sure the eco-story helped, all of the excess energy generated goes back into the local grid. plus, they are pressing other brands boards, so that also pays the bills. 

not likely "grants", but tax incentives for sure.


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18/11/2018 8:59 am  
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from what i’ve heard CAPiTA received a lot of grants from the Austrian gov’t that helped fund the mothership. they’re one of the biggest employers in the region, and i’m sure the eco-story helped, all of the excess energy generated goes back into the local grid. plus, they are pressing other brands boards, so that also pays the bills. 

that's where capita differs from a lot of other brands, which certainly helps bring in extra revenue. while i agree with all the eco-friendly stuff they're doing, all that technology is expensive -- more so that traditional methods -- and will take years to offset the initial costs. it's like if you put solar panels on your house: while you'll save money on your monthly power bills, it'll take a few years before that savings offsets the cost of the equipment (and installation).

@mbphoto the dream catcher seems to be damn near the exact same specs as the nitro drop, but with two more size options (and $30 USD more). oh, and 10mm setback vs the drop's 20mm, but would anyone really notice??

Bit of a risk setting up manufacturing in Austria too. What if market trends led to most brands building in China, thus making the Mothership redundant?

 

i think thats over simplifying the situation. its all about deals and negotiations in business. obviously the global manufacturing trend for just about everything is to make it in that part of the world. it's up to capita to show those companies why it's better for their business to have their boards made at the mothership...better quality at still fair prices, better R&D, ability to market the eco-friendly process, warranty processing, faster/cheaper shipping, etc. would all play a role in where any brand decides to have their boards pressed. just like they have the chance to convince any of us to buy their product over another brand, they have the chance to convince these other brands to manufacture with them rather than a chinese manufacturer 

austria is very very friendly and supportive of the ski/snowboard manufacturing industry. at least they used to be.

the only company (or "brand") if you prefer that still lies between their teeth about the excellent R&D abilities of chinese board manufacturing is K2. at least the nidecker group (and others) who build in Africa and other cheap labor markets admit they still design in europe.


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