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16/07/2019 11:38 am  
Posted by: Mig
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anyone look at/snag any of the Mine77 label stuff? Or had any experience with any of the previous stuff they released

Yeah, I am particularly curious to know how the Strap-On boot compares to the other Step-On boots as far as response and stiffness.

yea, wonder how much of each item they make. all the clothes seem to get sold out within a day or so


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16/07/2019 11:57 am  
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  I'm not sure when they put it in the infinite ride machine in the build process but that think is wild to watch.

 

How quickly does that thing flex the boards?  I've only seen one video of it in action, and I suspect it may be in slow motion.  Dis they tell you anything about how long they put it in there or how many flex cycles it puts a board through?  Any other cool details?
 
I find that concept fascinating.  I believe I remember reading years ago that it is meant to simulate three years worth of riding, which sounds far fetched, even if they are only projecting five riding days per year.

they don't put every board they make through the infinite ride machine. its was developed to test the construction and result of changes etc. you beak in your own board to a certain point and it (supposedly) doesn't break in past that. boom. infinite ride.


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16/07/2019 12:15 pm  
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  I'm not sure when they put it in the infinite ride machine in the build process but that think is wild to watch.

 

How quickly does that thing flex the boards?  I've only seen one video of it in action, and I suspect it may be in slow motion.  Dis they tell you anything about how long they put it in there or how many flex cycles it puts a board through?  Any other cool details?
 
I find that concept fascinating.  I believe I remember reading years ago that it is meant to simulate three years worth of riding, which sounds far fetched, even if they are only projecting five riding days per year.

they don't put every board they make through the infinite ride machine. its was developed to test the construction and result of changes etc. you beak in your own board to a certain point and it (supposedly) doesn't break in past that. boom. infinite ride.

If it has the infinite ride tech, it goes through the machine.

from B site:

This Burton-exclusive technology allows us to maximize pop and strength by overbuilding the board, then putting it in a machine that breaks in the board for you. Whether you choose to ride Flat Top, Flying V™, or Camber, rest assured that with Infinite Ride™ your board will maintain its flex, pop, and feel from the first day forward, season after season.


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16/07/2019 4:35 pm  

ok sure.


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17/07/2019 8:41 am  

For me, over the last couple years I have picked up three Burton boards and compared to other brands like Salomon there really is no break in or much of a change with the boards from B. The Salomon boards definitely have a break in period. Out of the wrapper hand flexing a new Salomon you can hear the fiberglass and wood breaking in. Not so much with a Burton board. I just assumed it was the infinite ride break in. 

 

 


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17/07/2019 1:36 pm  
Posted by: Mig
Yeah, I am particularly curious to know how the Strap-On boot compares to the other Step-On boots as far as response and stiffness.

I met a guy at Alpental who was riding the Strap-Ons. He was over 220 and said he was happy with the support. 

There's more to the story: I was surprised that he had already lost one of the straps. He told me that he probably didn't click in / step on properly, then the binding released while riding and he tumbled, tweaked his leg, and somehow the strap got ripped out of the boot. Honestly, I can't imagine losing the strap like this but the fact was he didn't have it.

I do have the Step-Ons myself and take this as a warning to be extra careful to click in good.


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17/07/2019 2:32 pm  
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Posted by: Mig
Yeah, I am particularly curious to know how the Strap-On boot compares to the other Step-On boots as far as response and stiffness.

I met a guy at Alpental who was riding the Strap-Ons. He was over 220 and said he was happy with the support. 

There's more to the story: I was surprised that he had already lost one of the straps. He told me that he probably didn't click in / step on properly, then the binding released while riding and he tumbled, tweaked his leg, and somehow the strap got ripped out of the boot. Honestly, I can't imagine losing the strap like this but the fact was he didn't have it.

I do have the Step-Ons myself and take this as a warning to be extra careful to click in good.

I’ve been on (and off) Step-Ons for two seasons.  You’d have to try pretty hard to not click in, especially at 220 lbs.  Even if you don't get the heel cleat fully engaged, your toe cleats are locked.  Sounds like a newb.

Shit, I have a harder time getting out of them then I do getting that 2nd click into the heel cleat...

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17/07/2019 3:01 pm  

^ I think the issue may have been he thought he was clicked in but his pants jammed in the mechanism without really locking. 


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20/07/2019 2:07 pm  

yeah if your pants get in there your going to pull out. the front cleats wont hold you in if the your heel lifts out. it should have been noticeable to him almost immediately if his pants were in there. their would be more play than normal


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22/07/2019 3:22 pm  
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Since a snowboard is not just a fancy thing for the sake of costing a lot of money, there is simply no way to justify that price for a deck. Even 1/3 of that price is hard to justify, and should only be purchased on sale. But, their super expensive decks have never been built with actual snowboarders in mind, they are just an option for (as Nose sad about the union MC) doctors and drug dealers.

Obviously they are still based on boards that we know to be great, so of course they will ride really well, but there’s no reason to buy the mystery versions. If you have that much extra money, send it to me instead! Or buy 5+ decks on sale.

I haven't bought any $1700 boards, but I bought my first $1000 board last season. I didn't think that it would be possible to find it on sale, so I paid (almost) retail price on it. For me, the price was justified after demoing the board and coming to the conclusion that: it was a pretty unique board that I couldn't get a less-expensive alternative version of; that I really, really liked riding it; that I could fit the purchase in my budget; and that there weren't two or three other boards that I would rather have than this one board. I am still happy with the choice I made, and would do the same thing again.

I've maybe seen you mention it, but what was it? Gentem?

As Spenser said, it's a Moss. A 170 swallowtail. Really unique in how it rides and its dimensions. I wish that I could find something comparable for $500, but I think that a giant, super-wide swallowtail is just a super niche board. I would be surprised if Moss makes more than a couple of dozen of these a year.


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23/07/2019 12:15 am  

Matty 4 prez

I'd love to ride your Moss! I've said it a few times now, but riding that old Nitro 195 fucked me up. Love my regular boards, but need more length in the quiver!


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23/07/2019 5:04 am  

How is the new toestrap on B bindings? Good or still crap like the older ones?

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23/07/2019 5:29 am  
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How is the new toestrap on B bindings? Good or still crap like the older ones?

I hear the new rubber/plastic one is solid enough and locks in better. Tried how it sit on my ions at a shop without riding; not super impressed but way better than the prior iteration. Nitro toe straps are still my favorite, except for the vibram one.


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23/07/2019 8:09 am  
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How is the new toestrap on B bindings? Good or still crap like the older ones?

It's def much better fitting than the previous version, those were terrible. Though I still think the Cartel gettagrip is slightly better, esp in terms of fitting diff types of boots. But the new supergrip toe strap is def an upgrade from the former.

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23/07/2019 8:45 am  

Agreed, like gettagrip ones better, but all works fine.

Only problem I had with B bindings is the ratchets frozen issue. 


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