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09/09/2019 11:21 am  
Posted by: Elektropow
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I’m not sure what I think about my riding, but if I can actually ride a board with style, rather than be good at tricks, I will take that all day, every day. 

If I could afford a team, you would definitely be on it (along with Louis and Bob). I will pick style and knowing how to turn a board over tricks any day. 

Probably for another thread but…

Thinking about style a lot the last few days. A few of my riding pals posted little video edits of themselves and each other from last season and, well… love em but… damn they got no style. Like one guy out of the bunch is nice and fluid and stylish (also the most experienced). The rest of them flail around like penguins on a raft. They'd kick me out for saying so too directly… how to help them discover their own style?!

(Sorry, no, flailing is not "just my style", it is flailing haha.)

I mean for me the pursuit of style is part of progression and the enjoyment of it all; the same drive that used to make me pursue cool tricks n stuff. Gotta do it with style man!

Maybe give everyone a copy of "Dogtown & Z Boyz"? I dunno.

(At least all the Japanese locals I ride with have loads of style and technical competence. "Form, Formality and Performance in Japanese Culture" I guess.)

I'm probably in the minority for saying this, but I totally disagree from a personal perspective. Sure, when we're talking about pros, some are more enjoyable to watch than others due to style and preferences. But style is something that's always a two way street and I'd hate to think I was doing stuff to impress others, taking away the enjoyment I get from riding. If you're riding with someone who's truly passionate and even more so, enjoys what he/she does (excluding the giddy falling leafers), they're enjoyable to watch and to ride with. I like to turn and cruise around just the same, but I won't resort to bitter grandpa talk just because some of my friends do cooler or technically better tricks than me, hah. I'm not comparing most of them to pro level riders. I still like to learn new stuff and there's always stoke involved both ways, even though we're not talking about how my back arm was positioned. But I guess if I were to star in videos trying to impress others, I'd have to be thinking about the mass narratives..

I overheard two skateboarders talking about how they should hold their hands when doing turns below coping and I vomited in my mouth a bit. Who the fuck cares, just go do what you enjoy doing! I mean, "you either have it or you don't" but at least do it for the right reasons.

*Ducks under the table*

Sorry @bopuc ! Don't mean to shoot you down too hard. But what is "the pursuit of style" really? Usually it's enough to get style points if you seem comfortable doing cool turns or tricks, not wasting a movement, like you've been doing them a long time. At least that's how I mostly see it. Then there's the subjective spectrum, Fergie's arm being a case in point. But it shouldn't matter to mortals. Guess it's just me but I don't get hyped on Dogtown stuff, hah. I grew up skating ledges, so Tiago and those superhumans get me stoked. And they've got style.

Oh and believe me, when I go tell kids to go do a bunch of ollies to learn how to pop tricks they look at me funny and go skate the trannies. Relative thing, but I get the feeling I'm being a bitter old man on a skatepark more often than not!

Hah! No shooting down man. I actually agree with you mostly. What I meant with style is much much more constrained. I don't mean anything forced or learnt—or *too* forced or *too* learnt… Not about what tricks you do or how your arm is positioned or how well you emulated whoever. Confession: I don't really know or watch any pros closely or anything. I watch vids and either enjoy the scene or not. I don't care who it is or anything like that. If it looks good/fluid/natural…  and I guess "graceful", flowing … then that person has style. If they move all jaggy and spastic and flailing and forced, then that person … hasn't quite developed their style (and that's usually cause they haven't pursued being fluid, for whatever reason).

I invoked DogTown & Z-Boyz cause there's a whole section about style that I do agree with:

I don't make any value judgements, but I do sometimes think "hah oh man that guy has smelly style." 😉 

 

Anyways, guys… it dumped like crazy in the Alps this weekend. Won't be long now and we can all go out and ride as we do. 🙂


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09/09/2019 11:35 am  
Posted by: tierarzt

That, or perhaps an exceptional pow day in Vermont. 

I have not ridden in Vermont in a very very long time (Jay Peak was a regular haunt for years), but the tree types and the snow in em look pretty much exactly how most of my last 3 winters in Hakkoda have looked. Hence the comment.

But yeah could of course be anywhere with similar trees and a good snow day 🙂


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09/09/2019 11:41 am  
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Posted by: Elektropow
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Posted by: Mig
Posted by: Spenser

I’m not sure what I think about my riding, but if I can actually ride a board with style, rather than be good at tricks, I will take that all day, every day. 

If I could afford a team, you would definitely be on it (along with Louis and Bob). I will pick style and knowing how to turn a board over tricks any day. 

Probably for another thread but…

Thinking about style a lot the last few days. A few of my riding pals posted little video edits of themselves and each other from last season and, well… love em but… damn they got no style. Like one guy out of the bunch is nice and fluid and stylish (also the most experienced). The rest of them flail around like penguins on a raft. They'd kick me out for saying so too directly… how to help them discover their own style?!

(Sorry, no, flailing is not "just my style", it is flailing haha.)

I mean for me the pursuit of style is part of progression and the enjoyment of it all; the same drive that used to make me pursue cool tricks n stuff. Gotta do it with style man!

Maybe give everyone a copy of "Dogtown & Z Boyz"? I dunno.

(At least all the Japanese locals I ride with have loads of style and technical competence. "Form, Formality and Performance in Japanese Culture" I guess.)

I'm probably in the minority for saying this, but I totally disagree from a personal perspective. Sure, when we're talking about pros, some are more enjoyable to watch than others due to style and preferences. But style is something that's always a two way street and I'd hate to think I was doing stuff to impress others, taking away the enjoyment I get from riding. If you're riding with someone who's truly passionate and even more so, enjoys what he/she does (excluding the giddy falling leafers), they're enjoyable to watch and to ride with. I like to turn and cruise around just the same, but I won't resort to bitter grandpa talk just because some of my friends do cooler or technically better tricks than me, hah. I'm not comparing most of them to pro level riders. I still like to learn new stuff and there's always stoke involved both ways, even though we're not talking about how my back arm was positioned. But I guess if I were to star in videos trying to impress others, I'd have to be thinking about the mass narratives..

I overheard two skateboarders talking about how they should hold their hands when doing turns below coping and I vomited in my mouth a bit. Who the fuck cares, just go do what you enjoy doing! I mean, "you either have it or you don't" but at least do it for the right reasons.

*Ducks under the table*

Sorry @bopuc ! Don't mean to shoot you down too hard. But what is "the pursuit of style" really? Usually it's enough to get style points if you seem comfortable doing cool turns or tricks, not wasting a movement, like you've been doing them a long time. At least that's how I mostly see it. Then there's the subjective spectrum, Fergie's arm being a case in point. But it shouldn't matter to mortals. Guess it's just me but I don't get hyped on Dogtown stuff, hah. I grew up skating ledges, so Tiago and those superhumans get me stoked. And they've got style.

Oh and believe me, when I go tell kids to go do a bunch of ollies to learn how to pop tricks they look at me funny and go skate the trannies. Relative thing, but I get the feeling I'm being a bitter old man on a skatepark more often than not!

IMO style is like personality. You can change things here or there, or mimic others, but you can't just be a different person. 

And just because someone tries to be 'xyz' style doesn't make it better than their own. How people interpret the mtn and their trick selection and their body mechanics and how comfortable or uncomfortable they look on the board and so many things go into style.

And we all prefer different things when watching someone ride. There are guys that some here think are the GOATs and I really am bored watching them. And there are others that I watch ride and I'm just enthralled with, but others would pick apart.

Personally, I really try to avoid thinking about how I look riding. I don't want to be concerned about if I throw up a B arm, or if I afterbang, or whaterver. One time I was riding by myself and I noticed I was kinda B-arming and I got caught thinking about that instead of just ripping. There was no one around. Not a single other person. It made me realize I can't be in my head about it and to not think about it.

I just want to see something that looks fun and ride it. If I look good, cool. If not, cool.  

It is really interesting how you guys are equating this with "worrying how I look", and I'm sorry if something I said set the thread off on that line. Was not my intent.

We should all ride how we like and how it feels natural to us! And if you are graceful, either naturally or out of a desire to be so, that's cool too. 

Right?

The one thing I will add is that there IS an aspect of style that is directly correlated to skill, and practice, and it is something that one can develop purely out of desire to pursue that aspect, and not to fit some mold or preconceived notion. (I guess the interesting flip here to me, culturally, is that some of you seem to consider "being stylish" as something forced and fake… whereas the way I use the word is "to be expressive of one's personality, through skill and practice and also free flow of talent" ?)


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09/09/2019 2:35 pm  
Posted by: Bopuc
Posted by: c.fuzzy
Posted by: Elektropow
Posted by: Bopuc
Posted by: Mig
Posted by: Spenser

I’m not sure what I think about my riding, but if I can actually ride a board with style, rather than be good at tricks, I will take that all day, every day. 

If I could afford a team, you would definitely be on it (along with Louis and Bob). I will pick style and knowing how to turn a board over tricks any day. 

Probably for another thread but…

Thinking about style a lot the last few days. A few of my riding pals posted little video edits of themselves and each other from last season and, well… love em but… damn they got no style. Like one guy out of the bunch is nice and fluid and stylish (also the most experienced). The rest of them flail around like penguins on a raft. They'd kick me out for saying so too directly… how to help them discover their own style?!

(Sorry, no, flailing is not "just my style", it is flailing haha.)

I mean for me the pursuit of style is part of progression and the enjoyment of it all; the same drive that used to make me pursue cool tricks n stuff. Gotta do it with style man!

Maybe give everyone a copy of "Dogtown & Z Boyz"? I dunno.

(At least all the Japanese locals I ride with have loads of style and technical competence. "Form, Formality and Performance in Japanese Culture" I guess.)

I'm probably in the minority for saying this, but I totally disagree from a personal perspective. Sure, when we're talking about pros, some are more enjoyable to watch than others due to style and preferences. But style is something that's always a two way street and I'd hate to think I was doing stuff to impress others, taking away the enjoyment I get from riding. If you're riding with someone who's truly passionate and even more so, enjoys what he/she does (excluding the giddy falling leafers), they're enjoyable to watch and to ride with. I like to turn and cruise around just the same, but I won't resort to bitter grandpa talk just because some of my friends do cooler or technically better tricks than me, hah. I'm not comparing most of them to pro level riders. I still like to learn new stuff and there's always stoke involved both ways, even though we're not talking about how my back arm was positioned. But I guess if I were to star in videos trying to impress others, I'd have to be thinking about the mass narratives..

I overheard two skateboarders talking about how they should hold their hands when doing turns below coping and I vomited in my mouth a bit. Who the fuck cares, just go do what you enjoy doing! I mean, "you either have it or you don't" but at least do it for the right reasons.

*Ducks under the table*

Sorry @bopuc ! Don't mean to shoot you down too hard. But what is "the pursuit of style" really? Usually it's enough to get style points if you seem comfortable doing cool turns or tricks, not wasting a movement, like you've been doing them a long time. At least that's how I mostly see it. Then there's the subjective spectrum, Fergie's arm being a case in point. But it shouldn't matter to mortals. Guess it's just me but I don't get hyped on Dogtown stuff, hah. I grew up skating ledges, so Tiago and those superhumans get me stoked. And they've got style.

Oh and believe me, when I go tell kids to go do a bunch of ollies to learn how to pop tricks they look at me funny and go skate the trannies. Relative thing, but I get the feeling I'm being a bitter old man on a skatepark more often than not!

IMO style is like personality. You can change things here or there, or mimic others, but you can't just be a different person. 

And just because someone tries to be 'xyz' style doesn't make it better than their own. How people interpret the mtn and their trick selection and their body mechanics and how comfortable or uncomfortable they look on the board and so many things go into style.

And we all prefer different things when watching someone ride. There are guys that some here think are the GOATs and I really am bored watching them. And there are others that I watch ride and I'm just enthralled with, but others would pick apart.

Personally, I really try to avoid thinking about how I look riding. I don't want to be concerned about if I throw up a B arm, or if I afterbang, or whaterver. One time I was riding by myself and I noticed I was kinda B-arming and I got caught thinking about that instead of just ripping. There was no one around. Not a single other person. It made me realize I can't be in my head about it and to not think about it.

I just want to see something that looks fun and ride it. If I look good, cool. If not, cool.  

It is really interesting how you guys are equating this with "worrying how I look", and I'm sorry if something I said set the thread off on that line. Was not my intent.

We should all ride how we like and how it feels natural to us! And if you are graceful, either naturally or out of a desire to be so, that's cool too. 

Right?

The one thing I will add is that there IS an aspect of style that is directly correlated to skill, and practice, and it is something that one can develop purely out of desire to pursue that aspect, and not to fit some mold or preconceived notion. (I guess the interesting flip here to me, culturally, is that some of you seem to consider "being stylish" as something forced and fake… whereas the way I use the word is "to be expressive of one's personality, through skill and practice and also free flow of talent" ?)

Yeah, I was actually going to say before that the style of looking comfrtable on a board is mostly correlated with time spent riding. Looking comfortable on a board is probably my #1 of good style.

I think mentioning the skaters discussing their style creation was what prompted me to mention how I was aware of my arm movement and how it disrupted my riding in that moment... like... one end of the spectrum vs. another. 

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10/09/2019 4:04 am  

Hi All, first post and looking for some advice. I'm thinking to pick up either last year's 155 Stun Gun or this year's 156 One Hitter but can't decide. Currently ride a 160 Sherlock which has a nice mellow flex which i like. Looking for something for Groomers and off piste/pow.  Just wondering out of the two which would be the most forgiving but still charge hard, any advice appreciated!


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11/09/2019 10:22 am  

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11/09/2019 12:38 pm  
Posted by: Tim

Hi All, first post and looking for some advice. I'm thinking to pick up either last year's 155 Stun Gun or this year's 156 One Hitter but can't decide. Currently ride a 160 Sherlock which has a nice mellow flex which i like. Looking for something for Groomers and off piste/pow.  Just wondering out of the two which would be the most forgiving but still charge hard, any advice appreciated!

I have the stun gun... It's middle of the road everything really which isn't a bad thing,  Can compare to OH in a few months...

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17/09/2019 4:04 am  

I pushed the button on a 56 One Hitter, arrives tomorrow!


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18/09/2019 6:18 pm  

Got me a HTH..   Hopefully will get on it for some spring pow this weekend.

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19/09/2019 5:18 pm  

My 'new' rides for W20, so far. 

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20/09/2019 4:33 pm  

Okay, I'm really thinking about the HTH. I mostly need a park deck for my quiver but my Kilroy 3D order was canceled. Now I can go back + buy again and I can also add to the basket 😱 


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