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28/04/2019 2:08 am  

I can vouch for what @awd1105 said, as we've ridden together a handful of times this winter. I've ridden his Cafe Racer a few times, and then followed up with riding my own Stealth. Mine feels much more stiff/plankish than his Cafe Racer, we both got ours at the beginning of the szn. I didn't ride mine as often as he did, as my US Orbit became my DD this year. The flex on his Cafe Racer now, is the flex that I really enjoy. At a about that ~7/10 range, with a bit of liveliness. While my Stealth still feels a bit too stiff and lifeless, on the contrary.


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28/04/2019 5:33 am  
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Did the board break in, or did you get used to it 🤔

That’s a good question. Both, obviously, but the break-in was very noticeable.

Handflexing it next to my other decks both at the beginning and end of the season confirmed it for me. 

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02/06/2019 4:22 am  

I have found a new Puzzle still in plastic for sale in Australia, and wondering how they compare to the Cafe Racer. And thoughts on purchasing a model that isn't made anymore. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 


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02/06/2019 7:10 pm  

Damn, always wanted a Puzzle.

Korua claims that the CR59 was the Puzzle's "replacement," even though the latter is a 161. I suppose if you dial back that little tail nub, the shape definitely resembles the Café. The CR is also full-camber, while the Puzzle had entry rocker.

The camber rise on my CR was pretty mellow, however. I remember that on my Stealth 63, the camber was noticeably higher, even though that board had entry rocker as well. 


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03/06/2019 2:44 pm  

i'd snag it.


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04/06/2019 6:09 am  

I’ve been on the Apollo, Pencil, and Puzzle - Puzzle was my favorite.  A bit of chore to ride in tight areas but very fun wide open on groomers or in powder.


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12/09/2019 11:41 pm  

Korua's pumping out new sizes of some of their shapes.

A 159 Pencil (didn't know they also made 147…)

153 & 161 Ottos

And they teased a new split shape (with a blunt/notched nose shape…) on Instagram.


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13/09/2019 4:52 am  

The new split resembles the shape of the Stealth, but I don't think it'll be called the Stealth Split+. I remember reading somewhere that it'll be called the Escalator.  

Allegedly, there's a "carving-specific", titanium-reinforced model called the Titan. That's the one I'm most curious about. 


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13/09/2019 9:04 am  

It probably has titanal layers, I would think.   Carving a board with metal in it is a joy.  I strongly recommend it to anyone if you ever have a chance.  The feel is amazing.


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13/09/2019 9:47 am  

Like a T6 or even something like the Ride Timeless? Capita produces some freestyle focused boards with titanal inserts.. What else is there?


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13/09/2019 10:27 am  

There are quite a few options out there for boards with full-length titanal construction, all of which are designed for racing or carving.  Titanal is isotropic in its resistance to stress, so metal board contacts don't twist out in the same way.

There are lots of metal boardcross boards out there (e.g. Kessler, Oxess, Coiler, Jasey Jay, F2, etc.).  Some companies also offer sick soft boot carvers with metal construction that are built with a similar shape and construction as the boardercross boards, but with mellower flex patterns and sidecuts (Coiler and Jasey Jay stand out in this regard).   

I had Jasey Jay build me a custom titanal carver a couple years ago, and it is the most pleasing groomer experience I have ever known.  It is super damp (titanal also makes boards crazy damp...maybe because it's so heavy?) and holds an edge in a different way than anything else.  Just as long as you can position your body and pressure the board properly, it will go where you want it to.  The contacts will not twist out.   Takes a while to get used to the feel, but it's amazing once you do.  It's a super specialized tool, though.  It is for shredding groomers and BX courses only  - it is terrible in chop, and really tail-heavy landings or prolonged buttering will delaminate it.


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13/09/2019 10:33 am  

Here's a video from a few years back of  Sean from Donek building a metal board.  As you can see, the titanal is in full-length layers that are bonded with rubber layers.  The one Jasey Jay Anderson built for me has 14 strategically placed cuts in the metal which are then butressed with differing weights of uni glass to elicit desired flex characteristics (he's a total mad scientist).


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13/09/2019 11:36 am  

Should probably be noted that Titanal has nothing to do with titanium; seems a bit of a misnomer. It's actually an alloy that's mostly aluminum with a combination of other metals like copper. It's used in ski construction, so even though Korua's use of it is pure speculation, I guess it'd make sense.  


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13/09/2019 7:44 pm  

Titanal is all over the ski industry, kinda surprised it isn’t used more in mainstream board construction. seems like CAPiTA is the first among more freestyle shapes. 


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13/09/2019 9:30 pm  

Titanal was heavily used in Salomon boards when they were still cap construction and made in France, kinda died out after Amer bought them and production shifted to China. It made their boards super damp, which I loved. As stated it also made them heavy, which in some instances was great, busting through chunder at the end of a pow day, but not so freestyle friendly... 


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