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matty
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12/11/2018 2:36 pm  

The toughest things for me with older 4x4s are:

  • Who had it before you and how well did they care for it?
  • How perished are all of the rubber parts in the suspension and drivetrain?

My 1991 Nissan Pathfinder dies an inglorious death because the asshole that had owned it forever (me) didn't do things like replace rubber boots on the CV joints, bushings in the suspension, etc. Salt, sand, and water got in and ate everything except the engine and transmission from the inside to the point that it sounded like a garbage truck coming down the street.

Also, my 2005 Volvo XC70 is a MUCH nicer place to me for the hour or more each way on the highway when I go snowboarding, but I sure do miss the pathfinder for the last bit through the rutted and/or deep access road and lot. Ground clearance and an analog 4x4 drivetrain can go more places in worse conditions.

 


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12/11/2018 2:54 pm  

Spot on @matty.  Maybe I'm too negative but I fear the commoditization of newer cars and the shear amount of plastic, electronics and lack of support past a certain year by dealers causing too many newer cars (post mid-90s) to end up non-functioning, rotted or unfixable.  I love the comfort of newer cars and this isn't a world is ending get your zombie mobile sentiment; just an observation that design in general has gone down the shitter, mainstream cars are disposable and ugly and manufacturers rarely support the parts side and would rather just sell an entirely new/better/cooler/more tech car.  

I've seen some guys throwing electric drivetrains (even Tesla's) in old cars like VW's, jags, Volvo wagons, Porsches, hot rod Mercs/Lincolns etc.  Right now many of those are cost-prohibitive bc it's still early on.  One day we may get more affordable retrofit kits, better charging and range and shops that can shoehorn an electric drivetrain in whatever someone already owns.

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12/11/2018 4:51 pm  

I love my “old” Jeep. There is not a single new vehicle that I like enough to want to own. I look forward to every time I drive it. So easy to work on, cheap and plentiful access to parts and upgrades, and it’s just simple.

Recently went up another tire size, now a few sizes over stock. Haven’t put the small lift on it yet. I’ve been thinking about doing a very basic build in the back to accommodate light vehicle camping with a small selection of gear storage. XJs are pretty tiny though, shorter than most small sedans out there. If only the 4.0L got better mileage.....

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It’s got the nice roof rack already, and I finally put the class 3 hitch on it this spring for my boat, but I’ve also started thinking about getting a pretty small cargo trailer to do a camper build, similar to what you’d do in an astro. Maybe just 5x8... futon bed with full storage & small kitchen space.

If money were no object, I would never buy a new vehicle, I would find my perfect older, simple SUV and make it as sound as possible. A Cherokee chief wide-track might be my first choice.

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13/11/2018 1:28 am  

Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.


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13/11/2018 1:53 am  
Posted by: matty

Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.

If you have the dough you can have both:

Or the next land cruiser which will be out in a year i believe.

 


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13/11/2018 5:13 am  
Posted by: matty

Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.

The biggest compliant I have about my subie is how loud the cabin is. One if those things where once I realized it I couldn't stop noticing it. Maybe an old land cruiser isn't for me! Haha I'm with you though, the Volvo lineup is so nice. I actually dig plenty of other wagons now but the v90 cross country is just so rad looking

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13/11/2018 7:38 am  
Posted by: SoyMateo

Spot on @matty.  Maybe I'm too negative but I fear the commoditization of newer cars and the shear amount of plastic, electronics and lack of support past a certain year by dealers causing too many newer cars (post mid-90s) to end up non-functioning, rotted or unfixable.  I love the comfort of newer cars and this isn't a world is ending get your zombie mobile sentiment; just an observation that design in general has gone down the shitter, mainstream cars are disposable and ugly and manufacturers rarely support the parts side and would rather just sell an entirely new/better/cooler/more tech car.  

I've seen some guys throwing electric drivetrains (even Tesla's) in old cars like VW's, jags, Volvo wagons, Porsches, hot rod Mercs/Lincolns etc.  Right now many of those are cost-prohibitive bc it's still early on.  One day we may get more affordable retrofit kits, better charging and range and shops that can shoehorn an electric drivetrain in whatever someone already owns.

You can look at the early 00's as the time when the accountants finally overrode the engineers for marquee brands like BMW & Mercedes. There are little things they switched to that make it cost prohibitive to own a vehicle past 100k miles. One of those things was changing all suspension bushings to be fluid filled instead of solid rubber which have a much shorter life span.

 

I'm privileged in that one of my best friends owns a shop a mile & a half from my house. Any time I need to work on my stuff & he has an open bay I can get in and wrench. I'm a particularly lazy mechanic so I'll often just pay him (like the transmission swap my wife's car is currently going through). 


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13/11/2018 11:38 am  
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Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.

The biggest compliant I have about my subie is how loud the cabin is. One if those things where once I realized it I couldn't stop noticing it. Maybe an old land cruiser isn't for me! Haha I'm with you though, the Volvo lineup is so nice. I actually dig plenty of other wagons now but the v90 cross country is just so rad looking

Dude. F'realsies. That V90XC is straight porno. I don't even know how it's possible, but the seats in that thing are supposed to be even MORE comfortable than the ones in my 2005 XC70. I will probably wait a couple of years before replacing my car, but do plan on getting a more recent version when I do, though I may move back into an SUV and get the XC90. I miss the taller seating position sometimes.


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13/11/2018 12:49 pm  
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Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.

The biggest compliant I have about my subie is how loud the cabin is. One if those things where once I realized it I couldn't stop noticing it. Maybe an old land cruiser isn't for me! Haha I'm with you though, the Volvo lineup is so nice. I actually dig plenty of other wagons now but the v90 cross country is just so rad looking

Dude. F'realsies. That V90XC is straight porno. I don't even know how it's possible, but the seats in that thing are supposed to be even MORE comfortable than the ones in my 2005 XC70. I will probably wait a couple of years before replacing my car, but do plan on getting a more recent version when I do, though I may move back into an SUV and get the XC90. I miss the taller seating position sometimes.

Unfortunately I've got the sports seats in my XC60. Would rather have the regular ones because they fit me better(broad back and fat) other than that I don't want to change a single thing on it.

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13/11/2018 12:55 pm  
Posted by: matty

Old 4x4s are rad, but I'm getting pretty spoiled by heated leather seats, multi-zone automatic climate control, and a super insulated, quiet cabin. It's nice to float down the highway at 80 miles and hour with almost no road noise and in perfect comfort. In a perfect world I would have something burly for every now and then and a brand new version of my Volvo for the other 95% of the time when burly isn't needed.

See, that’s what I like about driving..  feeling the road, heavier & more vague steering of a solid front axle, being able to hear the engine, exposed hardware, and not everything is perfect. I don’t want something without a good heater and a few modern touches, but I really enjoy an older utilitarian feel.

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13/11/2018 1:04 pm  

I’ll never be able to afford a restored/upgraded classic, but this is one of my favorites on the web. I do really like the old FJs, but I can’t help my attraction to classic jeeps. Not sure where that came from 🤷‍♂️


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13/11/2018 1:24 pm  

i drive past this farm on the way to/from work ALL the time. somehow only today did i notice a sick lookin old red truck in the yard...maybe a scout. would love to get a closer peek

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13/11/2018 1:31 pm  
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I’ll never be able to afford a restored/upgraded classic, but this is one of my favorites on the web. I do really like the old FJs, but I can’t help my attraction to classic jeeps. Not sure where that came from 🤷‍♂️

My old Jeeps... The wagon I drove all most daily through high school and has been sitting at my dads for the last 25 yrs. CJ2A my dad drove, but has been sitting for quite a few years now as well.. When the old man passes on, I'm gonna have to find a place to store them. 

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13/11/2018 2:01 pm  

The wagon is so rad! So much character. Seen a couple of them. Someone here in town has an old Willy’s military wagon, maybe a mail truck? I forget what they were for. Pretty small little thing.

My dad’s jeep story is his 1969 CJ5. He fully rebuilt the engine inside and out, every single nut and bolt.  During his early days at Fish & Game, he was out in the field with no contact besides snail mail. The jeep had not been running or used in a while because he was rebuilding it (almost done), but all my mom saw was that it was sitting. A stranger walked by the house one day, asked about it, and offered her $300. She took a check.  The guy left town and check bounced. So, my dad got a letter in his fish camp from her, letting him know she sold the jeep… and then he got to find out when he returned home that they had been ripped off. She still tries to argue that it was somehow my dad‘s fault, which is mind numbing.  At some point in my life, I will get her to admit she was in the wrong, haha. Guaranteed, it would still be running like a top today, and worth significantly more than $300…

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13/11/2018 2:06 pm  

There's also a fully restored 52 Willys Pickup at my dads as well, but I don't have a pic of it. The old man loves Willys, we spent all of my high school years wrenching/restoring them. 

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