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hoooolleee f… amazing they showed that… wow.


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07/11/2019 8:50 am  

these may have been posted already, some videos don’t show up when browsing on the old ipad. 

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07/11/2019 9:56 am  

@coleslawed did you catch Brust by chance?  Pretty good

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07/11/2019 10:03 am  
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Juheezuss... Victor is a beast and Blauvelt never looked so good.

Beastly riding and ho lee fuk those close calls

Amazing edit and editing.

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07/11/2019 5:28 pm  

^ watching this brings back memories and affected me quite a bit. Long long time ago I got in 3 avalanches. First 2 were smallish / sluffs so I got cocky. Third one was big, refrigerator-size blocks tumble dry. Was very lucky: only partial burial, nothing broken and was able to dig myself out. No airbags, gopros, or even mobile phones at the time. 

Anyway, I'm concerned that folks will see this and think it's manageable / they'll get lucky, too. What can be learned from this? That pros just accept the risk, it comes with the territory?


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07/11/2019 6:26 pm  
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Juheezuss... Victor is a beast and Blauvelt never looked so good.

Beastly riding and ho lee fuk those close calls

Amazing edit and editing.

Shite, those avys with Victor were nuts. I'm not well versed in avy safety, could Victor have done something diff/safer than what was shown? Seems a lot of viewers were seeing it as promoting unsafe/irresponsible snow safety?

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07/11/2019 7:11 pm  

Yeah, but a lot of people are inclined to say stuff like that anyway.  It's a common form of backcountry virtue signalling, and I have been guilty of it myself at times as well.

Maybe they were reckless, maybe they were conscientious as fuck. The truth is, though, we really don't know how much due diligence their crew put into things beforehand because the edit doesn't show us that.  The terrain they were riding had a really high level of objective hazard (i.e. steep, cliffy, convoluted, and loaded with a ton of snow), so one can only make it so safe.  Even with a team of guides who have tracked every bit of accumulation in the zone all season long working to mitigate the risks, terrain like that is always going to have the potential to kill you.  The North Face is sitting on barrels of cash, so I would be surprised if they didn't pull out all the stops in that regard.  

That was a massive slide, though!  The crown was huge!  I was impressed by the level of composure the crew on the mic kept while they were trying to establish visual contact.


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07/11/2019 7:15 pm  

Also, Victor is the man.  Thatline from 2:21 - 2:32 was nuts!


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Juheezuss... Victor is a beast and Blauvelt never looked so good.

Beastly riding and ho lee fuk those close calls

Amazing edit and editing.

Shite, those avys with Victor were nuts. I'm not well versed in avy safety, could Victor have done something diff/safer than what was shown? Seems a lot of viewers were seeing it as promoting unsafe/irresponsible snow safety?

Yea. I saw those comments on the youtube. Every.single.time a video shows an avy the cluckers come out clucking about glorifying avys on these young impressionable minds. Much like... that rappity rap music and shooter video games, I think. Okay... so don't show it? Just shelter peeps and only show the perfect rides? Teach abstinence?

I think they did an amazing job putting the viewer in a position to see how fukkn scary it is. I got a massive adrenaline drop. And Ivo (above) apparently got it too. I don't see a whole lot glorifying these events here.

Everyone knows going into avy territory and the bc is dangerous. We know before we go. Having a close call on the mtn... or in your car... or wherever, doesn't mean you didn't know there was a risk. That's part of the price of admission. And that's the problem. No one thinks showing someone almost drowning is glorifying drowning... 

If someone is going to pursue inherently dangerous activities they should be given all the information. They should probably see someone get buried and not come out. But we think that's tasteless and disrespectful to the dead. I think... if someone has a video of me making a bad choice and others can learn from it, show it. But we already know what can happen. It isn't stopping anyone that has their heart set on riding the steep pitch between fully living and almost dying.

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07/11/2019 10:18 pm  
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@coleslawed did you catch Brust by chance?  Pretty good

I don’t think I have. who’s in that one/filmed it?

I’m at the point where I pretty much trust a handful of filmmakers no matter who’s riding. Stark, Pendleton, Hayden, Durham, Price; they could film rocks and I’d be down. 

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07/11/2019 10:20 pm  

anyone else cop the VG USB drive? Balance Beam drops tomorrow and has some hammers. 

also, Slow Burn from Cryptic should be online soon and was a pretty fun watch at the premiere. best Ethan Deiss part in a while. 

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Everyone knows going into avy territory and the bc is dangerous. We know before we go. Having a close call on the mtn... or in your car... or wherever, doesn't mean you didn't know there was a risk. That's part of the price of admission. And that's the problem. No one thinks showing someone almost drowning is glorifying drowning... 

Not everyone knows. Gnarly stuff like the terrain in the vid is so easily accessible on many resorts in the Alps. People think they can get away with crazy shit all the time and it's mainly due to movies glorifying the actions. I don't think drowning is a good comparison, since everyone has experienced the feel of suffocation, at least partly, holding their breath or whatever. There are so many people, that think snow is just some porous substance that you can breath through, is fluffy and soft and an avalanche is basically just another roller coaster. Especially when only the close calls are shown. I don't know if there's been an incident, where someone has died during a professional filming session and it's been included in the edit. Most only hear stories about avalanche incidents and don't give it second thought that it could happen to them near a resort in lift accessible terrain. 

I think the animated parts showcased what goes into the situation well, but that might not be seen as such by the regular viewer. I am happy regardless that they showed the incident from all angles, to give perspective. 

The one thing pros have in sessions like these is that they have eyes from multiple perspectives, not just from above, so they, in most scenarios, will be able to localize a burial much more efficiently: last visual, trajectory and so on saves a shit load of time in the first phases of localizing, like doing patterns based on the effectiveness of your transceiver. To most of us it's obvious that it must be a crew with immense amount of knowledge, experience, skills in coordination etc. to make it work. And when it does, they do take calculated risks. I think in most pro-sessions the victim is usually dug up within 5 minutes. There's a bunch of other stuff obviously, like cliffs, where other harm might occur.


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