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26/08/2020 7:40 am  
Posted by: @unsatisfiedus

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and i still use the straps the bindings came with.

Dufuq??

Enjoy your BAN... noob!!!


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26/08/2020 7:58 am  
Posted by: @bopuc2

Was gonna say this all sounds like the major attraction for Nows is the amount of extra shit stance nerds can fuss about…

/me ducks

/me looks at getting some…

Before Nowz I had Flux heavily based upon the simplicity. My opinion was the simpler the better. And my immediate take on Nowz was they were the opposite of what I wanted in a binding... and probably a gimmick. 

They do have a bigger fuss factor. The OG toe ratchets and ladders weren't great. I've definitely swapped the straps and ratchets on my first gen models. The newer gens are a bit better and I've not Frankenstein'd them. It's sort of obnoxious to have to think about losing pads when they aren't attached to a board.


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26/08/2020 12:10 pm  

FWIW I never found the NOWs terribly complicated in practice. Options aside, I rode the stiff bushings almost exclusively for like 4 years... didn't try the softer bushings in the heel until a shop guy I know recommended trying it. I like it, but it's the first time I've ever really noticed a big difference, and that's only because I can distinctly feel the difference between heel and toe. I'm sure there's a difference between all soft versus all hard, but it was never really noticeably enough that it was worth swapping the parts around.

If anything in practice for me they've been less adjustable than other bindings I've owned (no highback rotation options, no adjustable gas pedals, no adjustable heelcup, only one ankle strap position, etc.). Just fewer choices to make.

I will admit the hardware / straps on them are crap, but both look like they've improved a ton in the past couple years. Next set I buy I might not swap the straps out for Burton hardware.


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26/08/2020 7:32 pm  
Posted by: @kimchi

FWIW I never found the NOWs terribly complicated in practice. Options aside, I rode the stiff bushings almost exclusively for like 4 years... didn't try the softer bushings in the heel until a shop guy I know recommended trying it. I like it, but it's the first time I've ever really noticed a big difference, and that's only because I can distinctly feel the difference between heel and toe. I'm sure there's a difference between all soft versus all hard, but it was never really noticeably enough that it was worth swapping the parts around.

If anything in practice for me they've been less adjustable than other bindings I've owned (no highback rotation options, no adjustable gas pedals, no adjustable heelcup, only one ankle strap position, etc.). Just fewer choices to make.

I will admit the hardware / straps on them are crap, but both look like they've improved a ton in the past couple years. Next set I buy I might not swap the straps out for Burton hardware.

Interesting about having the soft on the heels. In theory, isn't heelside technically the more demanding edge, therefore having the hard bushing on the heel work better for performance/response? In any case, def gonna try all hard, all soft and then mix of half & half, and see what feels best.

And I love B straps (esp the GenX ones), but didn't mind the comfort of the Drives straps when I first tried them 3-4 years ago. I imagine they've gotten better since then? Anyway, can't wait to try 'em out. Baptisizing it on the 59 Pencil 😊.


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26/08/2020 7:49 pm  

Depends how you define why either edge is “more demanding.” Heel could be more demanding/needing more support in the sense that more people are looking for “more performance” on the heel due to shortcomings in riding, but toe could be more demanding in the sense that more people are better at that edge, thus they are able to put more into it, thus it “needs” more support. In the end it’s gotta be a preference in feel. I imagine they are all damp enough, but the durometer affects the sensation of the kingpin system, and how it feels to do so, rather than the linear “how well it does so”

…says the guy who has only ever ridden hard bushings


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27/08/2020 2:06 pm  

"Curious what others think/do-do though"

Always ridden the hard bushings simply because they should be the most responsive. But the ideas about softer on the heelside or inside are interesting. Might try that this winter depending on what happens with the resorts.


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27/08/2020 2:41 pm  

soft heelcup is where its at (for me) - salomon shadowfit ftw


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27/08/2020 4:52 pm  
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Posted by: @kimchi

FWIW I never found the NOWs terribly complicated in practice. Options aside, I rode the stiff bushings almost exclusively for like 4 years... didn't try the softer bushings in the heel until a shop guy I know recommended trying it. I like it, but it's the first time I've ever really noticed a big difference, and that's only because I can distinctly feel the difference between heel and toe. I'm sure there's a difference between all soft versus all hard, but it was never really noticeably enough that it was worth swapping the parts around.

If anything in practice for me they've been less adjustable than other bindings I've owned (no highback rotation options, no adjustable gas pedals, no adjustable heelcup, only one ankle strap position, etc.). Just fewer choices to make.

I will admit the hardware / straps on them are crap, but both look like they've improved a ton in the past couple years. Next set I buy I might not swap the straps out for Burton hardware.

Interesting about having the soft on the heels. In theory, isn't heelside technically the more demanding edge, therefore having the hard bushing on the heel work better for performance/response? In any case, def gonna try all hard, all soft and then mix of half & half, and see what feels best.

And I love B straps (esp the GenX ones), but didn't mind the comfort of the Drives straps when I first tried them 3-4 years ago. I imagine they've gotten better since then? Anyway, can't wait to try 'em out. Baptisizing it on the 59 Pencil 😊.

interesting take.  i thought about it as heels being a more blunt object with less nuanced ability to apply pressure, but more forceful.  i also like the idea of softer bushings on stiff bindings.  all joking aside i am going to try both next year.  


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31/08/2020 4:28 pm  

59 Pencil x Jones Merc 💚

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20/09/2020 11:58 pm  

Hi Guys,

a question, i would like to get a Nidecker Liberty 2020 but i m really undecided about the size..

Use to carve on slopes and sometimes off the piste, my height 1,82 my boots size 42,5 my weight 82kg.

Which size you reccomend ? 155 or 160? 

 

thanks a lot


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21/09/2020 9:30 am  

I think the liberty is the same shape as the Mellow (I havent looked at the specs- just by looks). 155=260ww

I had the 160 Mellow- I sold it and got the 155, its great in pow and carve- its my best board for banked slalom actually. it makes 3 inch of powder snow feel like 6+

155=260ww

the 160 is a lot of board

get the 155 , super fun board, snappy, carvy, poppy, floaty 

 

edit- the Mellow from 2019- the mellow from this year 2021 is a new shape- 

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21/09/2020 6:22 pm  

New signings ready to go, lol.

59 Pencil / 56 Banker

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Roster complete for 2020/21

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54 Orbit / 56 Banker / 57 T. Finder+ / 59 Pencil


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21/09/2020 7:25 pm  

that’s a pretty perfect quiver


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21/09/2020 11:59 pm  
Posted by: @coleslawed

that’s a pretty perfect quiver

Thanks, dude. Feel totally content going into this season. Nothing else really interesting me much for this upcoming winter.


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22/09/2020 12:14 am  

Yep, sweet selection.

I imagine I’ll be spending most of my time on the orbit 57... really hits the mark for my every day board. Hoping to put the hammerhead 71 next, but would like to spend more time on my old fishes as well.

The blunt diamond 62 I got is crazy stiff, like it might be a factory fluke, so I’m not sure what will happen there. I only rode it twice, good conditions but after I had borrowed a friend’s drives & my burtons felt like dysfunctional bear traps on every board, so maybe it’ll be better with drives.

I’m also wondering what on earth I’ll end up with next. It’s always going to happen, but I don’t have anything on my radar....

someone needs to buy my oxblood nitro fusion


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