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11/02/2020 11:14 am  

@c-fuzzy

Just go find a local ski boot fitter, the older and crustier the better. 

Ski boot fitters know what’s up and will get you dialed in. 

Well worth the time and money. 


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11/02/2020 3:37 pm  

I've said it before (probably further back in this thread) but I wish snowboard shops gave a crap about boot fitting. I'm lucky that I don't need to modify my current boots at all, but in the past I've never found a board shop that was able to speak competently about aftermarket boot fit work. I have to go to ski shops. Closest I've come is a few shops that stock both boards and skis, and have one guy who maybe does both but mostly skis.


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12/02/2020 4:39 pm  
Posted by: @pow_hnd

So here's where my new boots ended up at.

I'm lucky living in Wasangeles. 

Boot fitting is always a must. In the past I've done most of it myself, but the shop I've bought my stuff from didn't really want to sell me materials anymore, but boot fitting is free with a custom set of insoles, which I was getting from them anyways so I just went with them doing my boot fitting. 

Looks like really nice work - which shop did you go to? Interested in getting custom soles for my new boots too. But now wondering if they could maybe  make my half size too big boots fit as well.


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12/02/2020 8:44 pm  
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Posted by: @pow_hnd

So here's where my new boots ended up at.

I'm lucky living in Wasangeles. 

Boot fitting is always a must. In the past I've done most of it myself, but the shop I've bought my stuff from didn't really want to sell me materials anymore, but boot fitting is free with a custom set of insoles, which I was getting from them anyways so I just went with them doing my boot fitting. 

Looks like really nice work - which shop did you go to? Interested in getting custom soles for my new boots too. But now wondering if they could maybe  make my half size too big boots fit as well.

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13/02/2020 2:20 pm  

@pow_hnd

Thanks! Just spoke to them will get mine fitted tomorrow,👍

 


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c.fuzzy
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13/02/2020 3:01 pm  
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@c-fuzzy

Just go find a local ski boot fitter, the older and crustier the better. 

Ski boot fitters know what’s up and will get you dialed in. 

Well worth the time and money. 

I know. Still, it's a 3 hour drive to the nearest one that comes up on google (chicago), so at least a 6 hour round trip + the time at the shop. The feasibility of it with my life right now is just not good. But yeah. I'm sure it would be super beneficial.

I'm probably good with my old boots for the rest of this season considering all things.  


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13/02/2020 5:27 pm  

Ended up ditching the bulkytwos and getting Burton Imperials. The Imperials in half a size larger have the same footprint as the 32s and have a way slimmer profile. I still can't believe how chunky the 32s are all around. Like to the point of needing to adjust my bindings and also changing how my pants fit over my boots. Just by looking at them both and not even riding them the quality difference is also insane, the 32s look and feel like cheapos. I had under 10 days on the bulkytwos and they felt like they were already turning to mush, already felt them folding when I leaned into them. 

After all these years, goodbye Thirtytwo.


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13/02/2020 7:06 pm  

love my '19 Imperials 


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13/02/2020 11:30 pm  

I've actually been super happy with my Nitro Teams this season. My Ions have been to the boot fitter, the new ones don't fit me and are pretty much on their last leg, but the Nitro's fit is very comparable to the Infinite Ride liner fit, but cushier with better ankle articulation. Super comfortable from day 1 and no need for modding yet. 

Stiffness wise, they are maybe a tad more supportive around the ankle area than well broken in ions, but a bit looser up top maybe with not quite as much rebound. Seem quality as well, like they would last at least a season. 


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14/02/2020 4:31 am  

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How is the footprint compared to Burtons? 

 


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14/02/2020 6:17 am  

@whateverman87 footprint is the same, no bigger. I have Nitro Teams and really like them. Similar in feel and construction to Salomon/Burton, but much less bulky around the ankle than current Burton Ions. I've found them slightly more snug inside so better for my narrower foot. 

 


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14/02/2020 6:48 am  

Yeah, small footprint, slightly thicker and cushier sole, better for normal to narrower feet. Us8,5 has the same footprint as my us8 ion, but it has a bit of natural lean, so the heel sticks out a bit more than on the ions. If you're really anal, you may want to re adjust your heelcup, if you can.

I feel the non vibram toe strap a bit, or actually the buckle, if I over tighten them, but apart from that pretty solid. Did a full 7 hour day without problems again. Might invest in a Select or El Mejor next for the added toe piece, depending whether I want more or similar stiffness..


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14/02/2020 7:07 am  
Posted by: @dandan

Ended up ditching the bulkytwos and getting Burton Imperials. The Imperials in half a size larger have the same footprint as the 32s and have a way slimmer profile. I still can't believe how chunky the 32s are all around. Like to the point of needing to adjust my bindings and also changing how my pants fit over my boots. Just by looking at them both and not even riding them the quality difference is also insane, the 32s look and feel like cheapos. I had under 10 days on the bulkytwos and they felt like they were already turning to mush, already felt them folding when I leaned into them. 

After all these years, goodbye Thirtytwo.

I had the exact same situation happening with my most recent pair of Thirtytwo's (posted about it a few pages back). Started the year on a brand new pair of TM2's (2019 model bought at the end of last season) and by day 15 the tongue pretty much turned to mush, which resulted in me really over-tightening my laces to get the desired response and stiffness back. That lead to a whole other set of issues (foot pain, numbness, new hot spots). I can't say that I noticed the bulkiness being as much of an issue for me, probably varies from model to model. But Thirtytwo really needs to do something about the absurdly cheap construction of their tongues they are putting in their most recent year's boots. I have a pair of TM2's from 2016 and that pair does not have that issue at all.

Out of frustration with the ridiculously short life of the TM2's I just picked up a pair of this year's Imperials, rode in them all last weekend and I am impressed. I would really prefer traditional laces I'm not really sold on the speed lacing systems, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The Imperials remind me a lot of the Burton Sabbaths I wore for quite a few seasons, which are still my favorite boots I've ever owned.


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14/02/2020 2:47 pm  

Yes, less than positive feelings with 32s. I have a pair of TM2 XLTs. They actually ride decent. But I'm having a lot of low key durability issues with them. The tongue looks like it'll eventually delam and I only have like 15 days on them. The D-rings that came on the power straps are complete crap, I snapped 3 of them before I just jury rigged something with some heavy duty key rings I had lying around.

My biggest complaint is foot print. They are massive. The XLTs are 10.5 and compared to my size 10.5 Burton Imperials or my size 10 Adidas Tactical, I need to keep a pair of large binders on hand just for them... I can't fit into the heelcups comfortably with NOW or Burton mediums. On my Hitchhikers, I even picked up a set of large ankle straps for my medium bindings to accommodate them.

They're fine for the specific use I have for them (occasional splitboarding), but I probably won't buy another pair. 


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15/02/2020 7:25 am  
Posted by: @jbrorbs
Posted by: @dandan

Ended up ditching the bulkytwos and getting Burton Imperials. The Imperials in half a size larger have the same footprint as the 32s and have a way slimmer profile. I still can't believe how chunky the 32s are all around. Like to the point of needing to adjust my bindings and also changing how my pants fit over my boots. Just by looking at them both and not even riding them the quality difference is also insane, the 32s look and feel like cheapos. I had under 10 days on the bulkytwos and they felt like they were already turning to mush, already felt them folding when I leaned into them. 

After all these years, goodbye Thirtytwo.

I had the exact same situation happening with my most recent pair of Thirtytwo's (posted about it a few pages back). Started the year on a brand new pair of TM2's (2019 model bought at the end of last season) and by day 15 the tongue pretty much turned to mush, which resulted in me really over-tightening my laces to get the desired response and stiffness back. That lead to a whole other set of issues (foot pain, numbness, new hot spots). I can't say that I noticed the bulkiness being as much of an issue for me, probably varies from model to model. But Thirtytwo really needs to do something about the absurdly cheap construction of their tongues they are putting in their most recent year's boots. I have a pair of TM2's from 2016 and that pair does not have that issue at all.

Out of frustration with the ridiculously short life of the TM2's I just picked up a pair of this year's Imperials, rode in them all last weekend and I am impressed. I would really prefer traditional laces I'm not really sold on the speed lacing systems, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The Imperials remind me a lot of the Burton Sabbaths I wore for quite a few seasons, which are still my favorite boots I've ever owned.

Funny that mine are a pair of the softer 19' Lashed that broke down after 8 days. I also had the exact same foot issues. The bulkiness is probably just a model issue, I never found the TM2 too bulky (but that's based on older models). One of my options was to grab TM2's to replace them but I found a great deal on last years Imperial. I also like traditional lacing the best but I remember liking the 32 fast track system (a speed zone copy).

The two redeeming things about the Lashed was the metal hooks for the laces which held the laces extremely well and the actual laces weren't those shitty synthetic slippery laces that boot companies still cheap out with for some reason (on the model I got anyway). That's probably my bigggest boot pet peeve.

Anyway, I currently have two pairs of Imperials. The half size down destroys the front of my foot but feels good in the heel and the half size up feels pretty comfy out of the box. I'll probably go for the comfy pair and add some j-bars when the time comes.

 

 


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