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I always thought that Salomon wides where E last and not wider. Maybe I have to order a pair or two to try them out.

In fairness, the last set of Salomon I tried on was around 10 years ago, so I don't know how much they've reworked the last since then. But like I said, I'm at LEAST a EE and could literally rock my foot side-to-side in a 28.5 Mondo / 10.5 US Dialogue Wide.

I did try on some Synapse Wide JP in 275mp because they didn’t have my regular size 270mp in stock yesterday but they weren’t as wide as my Adidas or even Ion asian fit as I remembered. Heel volume is always a issue for me even with Adidas being too roomy. 


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Do the Acerra ADV have a similar width as Tactical ADV? I am currently using B Photon wide boots 10.5 US, as my feet are on the wider side, but I read that Adidas boots have wider toe box as well and are more narrower at the hell and ankle section, which I guess would work perfectly for my feet. Also, based on reviews I think I could size down to 10 US, so my future decisions about whether I need a wide board or not would be much easier to make.

Wouldn't consider Adidas a true wide boot like a EE Salomon, but it is one of the wider options. The gold liner really holds up too...very little packing out or noticeable change in flex after 100+ days on the first pair. Like everyone else is saying though, it's impossible to guess at fitment without trying them on. On my 2nd set now, but with all the rumors circulating, need to pick up another backup pair before it's too late!

In my experience they're plenty wide for a EE foot. I think my left foot is just shy of a EEE and my right foot is a EE (around a size 10.5). These things fit snug and are one of the few boots on the market that will accommodate my "sixth toe" area (caveat that have duck feet: wide at the widest point through the middle, then aggressively narrow heels).

That said, Salomon wide are definitely wider. Those fuckers are REALLY wide. I was swimming in the Dialogue Wides I tried on years back, felt like they must have been in the 3E/4E range.

I have the same morphology of feet so I am really excited to try some Adidas boots. My widest foot is just slightly in the EE range, therefore I have been using Photon wides for two seasons now. But heel hold is not great for my skinny heel. I just need to wait for my credit card loop to reset, so I will be able to order ''a few'' options 😀 

 

Well, I have received Adidas Tactical ADV (2019) today. They fit my wider feet really well, however when I lean forward my right heel starts to push at the back plate so hard it causes some pain and discomfort. I guess this would be even more hurtful while riding. Therefore I am thinking to return them:/ I have also ordered a Photon wide in 10 US (which is one size smaller to my true modo size) and although they feel much snugger than Adidas, the heel hold sucks.


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@jako

I heat molded the liners and it helped with the slight discomfort when I put them on


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You are taking about the heel problem? You solved it with heat molding? I am not sure how heat molding would solve this issue because I think the problem is that the liner is very thin at that point and therefore heel is pushing to the back plate.


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@jako

my bad, I thought you meant the heel of the liner…I had some issues with an old broken ankle that made the back of the heel borderline painful that I was able to resolve with some molding... didn't realize you meant the boot itself 


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I guess I did not express myself in a right way... Yes I meant my heel not the heel of the liner. However, I wanted to point out that when I bend my knees (riding position), my heels push further back in the heel cup I feel a severe pressure point at the back of the right heel. My guess is that the heel is pushing to the hard plate, which is at the back of the shell. 


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Definitely size down half a size in Adidas. I'm measure out at around a 10.25 and wear 10.5 in most everything, but I can comfortably fit into a size 10 in Adidas. That extra half size doesn't add as much clearance as you'd hope for drag. I believe a size 10 Adidas is slightly shorter than a size 10.5 Burton with Shrinakage, but slightly bigger than a size 10 Burton. So you'll gain more like a quarter size of clearance rather than a full true half size. But in a size 10 it doesn't really matter unless you're looking at like sub-253 mm waist boards.

I also thought so, but I have measured them since I have both boots at home (Photon wide 10 US - 28.0 mondo and Adidas Tactical ADV 10 US - 28.0 mondo) atm. I can tell that we were wrong. The Adidas' in 10 US are SHORTER than the Burton's in 10 US.

 

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I guess I did not express myself in a right way... Yes I meant my heel not the heel of the liner. However, I wanted to point out that when I bend my knees (riding position), my heels push further back in the heel cup I feel a severe pressure point at the back of the right heel. My guess is that the heel is pushing to the hard plate, which is at the back of the shell. 

Fuck that pain is unbearable. I had the same issue with my 2020 acerras yesterday (which was strange because riding last week I had no pain but I was riding sitffer bindings.) I posted it on dig my quiver on facebook and a few people chimed in saying the exact same thing with adidas. I had it happen one other time in my old acerras when I had them in rome katanas that were too big for the heel cup and I blamed it on the bindings since I never got the pain with my nitro bindings. Gray Thompson (United Shapes) said he got bone spurs on his heel from trying to ride adidas. So I looked at my foot and I have a bone spurs starting on my heel and other people said the same thing. I went to tactics today to try on the hi country taxwoods and infuse and brought my acerras wtih I couldn't replicate it. The taxwoods felt slightly stiffer than the acerras. Liners on the vans a much thicker than adidas. Taxwoods are the least bulky vans boots I've ever tried on, infuse on the other hand still bulky. But amazingly to my surprise I didn't realized vans got on the reduced footprint band wagon. The footprint was just a hair bigger than adidas on both the infuse and taxwoods. Long story short I ordered the taxwoods tonight.

PXL 20201219 191015006

spur starting on my left heel

PXL 20201219 203725100

adidas left taxwoods on the right


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Someone else on DMQ chimed in this morn saying its probably Haglunds Deformity. Has anyone else developed this bump on the heel? Mine seems to be on the side where a lot of the times it's directly behind the heel. I guess it develops from hard heels of footwear IE wearing too small of shoes or boots. So with everyone being told to size down in adidas this could be a cause. So since goodride says to size down in adidas could there be a "lawsuit" joking kinda but also sorta serious I think that publicly giving advice that causes long term issues you should kinda be held responsible especially putting it out in the public eye and encouraging people to fuck there feet up. I'm curious how many people have actually developed it? I wouldn't have even looked if Gray Thompson wouldn't have mentioned it.


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Haglunds Deformity.

I'd make an appointment with a Podiatrist ASAP. 


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FWIW sizing down a half size on Adidas is bang-on for me. And I got way worse heel pain from my 32 XLTs (true-to-sized) than Adidas.

I'm guessing the issue is likely bad fit with specific people issue than anything systemic. They have a narrow-ass heel pocket, which perfectly suits my narrow-ass heels. I've got close to 100 days on Adidas boots at this point without any issues. I did fuck up my heel once, but that's because I overshot a cheese wedge landing by 20 ft.

Folks might remember I had a SHIT FIT about Adidas customer service in this thread last year (I can't find the post, but I included a picture of someone lighting an Adidas tshirt on fire), so I'm no apologist. But I have had a generally great experience with the product.


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Thats why I always buy my boots in Mondopoint sizes. No sizing down or true fit shit.


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I do not know if I experienced the heel pain in Tacticals due to sizing down for a 1/2 size. If I could eliminate the heel pain, these would be the best fitting boots I have ever owned - they were almost too good, so I started thinking to size down even more since there was plenty room for my toes. But when I band my knees and len over my toes heel pain kicked in almost immediately. I guess it would be even worse after a whole day of riding. 


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I usually don't like the angry snowboarder but I came across these tonight and there are some pretty solid tips. http://www.angrysnowboarder.com/boot-fitting-101-beating-bunions-and-bone-spurs-pt-1/

Theres also a pt 2 if you want even more tips

I'd try these on my acerras but I feel like I'm ready to try a new boot and take step back from boa (I can never get them to stay tight for me after each run I'm cranking them down) I'm probably going to heatmold my taxwoods this way when they come in. It will be the first boot i've heat molded in like 10 yrs.  A question about heat mold for anyone more knowledge able than me. Can I just heat mold the heel with the rice method and not worry about packing out the toes? Or if I don't put the extra pieces on my toes will it not really pack the toes out if I heat the whole boot? After watching the videos I feel like I should try heel wedges as well. He's got a whole series on boot fitting I'm pigeon toed as well, I also have minimal taylor bunions (6th pinky bone) as well and slight hammer toes my feet are just fucked but hes got some good tips for most that as well. I honestly didn't know snowboard boots had so many options. I knew there were a lot of tricks for ski boot fitting.

 


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