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There was that guy with shred soles that had a whole boot fitting guide book and a bunch of other stuff about getting the right fit. His site is still up, maybe reach out to him?

Also, the footprint reduction eliminated most of the need for sizing down imo. A lot of boots now-ahh-days seem pretty fitted out of the box and there's less packout. to me it seems like maybe 10 years since sizing down has been a solid general recommendation.  That said, brands vary. Boots within brands vary. Feet vary. YMMV.

One more thing I had to realize for myself is I tend to wear my street shoes a half a size bigger than my feet actually are, which caused me to think I had to drop a half a size vs. I just had the wrong idea about what size I am.

 


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I’d also recommend measuring your feet on a Mondo Brannock device when taking “sizing down” into consideration.

we have brannocks from 32, Burton, and an OG device in US sizing, all of which I measure just over 11. we also have a Salomon device that uses Mondo, where I’m just shy of 285. I haven’t measured up on our Shimano Euro sized one, should do that soon, but I think I’m a 44 there?

I’ve been wearing size 10.5 shoes since high school, with the occasional 11 for slip-ons and 10 for shoes that fit looser (those may have caused some bunions 😬), so I’m already “sizing down” in my everyday shoes, and wouldn’t want to size down much more for a snowboard boot. whereas most people I size up are wearing true to their US brannock size (and I still can’t convince them to try on a boot in that size instead of sizing up 🙄). 


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I just checked my mondo not 100% accurate I stood on a squishy yoga mat used a spatula to push a line at my heel and end of my toe and measured it then converted to cm and used the charts online. I'm about a 29cm so in vans it says size 11 and adidas it says size 12 or 12.5. I feel like I'd be swimming in a 12 or 12.5 adidas.


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Posted by: @parker

I just checked my mondo not 100% accurate I stood on a squishy yoga mat used a spatula to push a line at my heel and end of my toe and measured it then converted to cm and used the charts online. I'm about a 29cm so in vans it says size 11 and adidas it says size 12 or 12.5. I feel like I'd be swimming in a 12 or 12.5 adidas.

https://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/size-charts/adidas-snowboard-boots-sizing-they-come-up-small

according to this they say ignore adidas mondo sizing 😂

 


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Posted by: @coleslawed

according to this they say ignore adidas mondo sizing

I can say you should ignore almost all mondo point sizing ( or any sizing for that matter ) and just use it for a starting reference point. 

Example. 

DC boots. 

This year I ordered 3 different boots from them. Judge, T-Rice, Shuksan. All the exact same size. Judge was a solid hell no. T-rice and Shuksan were money. I could put the T-Rice/Shuksan liners in the Judge and it was good, but the Judge liners were just way thicker and crushed my toes. So it's not all equal, even in the same brand. Sizing should just be a starting point. For boots, over last 10 years when I buy, I just order 3-4 pairs, when they get to my house I wear them around my house extensively for a day or two till I'm sure about which ones and/or size is "it".. Then send the other pairs back for a refund. 

As far a Parkers heel, we talked yesterday, I told him he should see a podiatrist ASAP. Once that starts on your heel, if he does in fact have it, it requires medical intervention. I hope that is not it and it's just the boots, but no amount of boot fitting can make that go away. 


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Posted by: @coleslawed

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I’d also recommend measuring your feet on a Mondo Brannock device when taking “sizing down” into consideration.

we have brannocks from 32, Burton, and an OG device in US sizing, all of which I measure just over 11. we also have a Salomon device that uses Mondo, where I’m just shy of 285. I haven’t measured up on our Shimano Euro sized one, should do that soon, but I think I’m a 44 there?

I’ve been wearing size 10.5 shoes since high school, with the occasional 11 for slip-ons and 10 for shoes that fit looser (those may have caused some bunions 😬), so I’m already “sizing down” in my everyday shoes, and wouldn’t want to size down much more for a snowboard boot. whereas most people I size up are wearing true to their US brannock size (and I still can’t convince them to try on a boot in that size instead of sizing up 🙄). 

I have also noticed that proper insoles make an enormous difference how boots feel - position of feet in the boots. I have slightly collapsed feet and costumed made insoles lift my feet slightly so they are in more ''normal'' position. This reduce my feet measures for about 5 mm.


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Posted by: @pow_hnd
Posted by: @coleslawed

according to this they say ignore adidas mondo sizing

I can say you should ignore almost all mondo point sizing ( or any sizing for that matter ) and just use it for a starting reference point. 

Example. 

DC boots. 

This year I ordered 3 different boots from them. Judge, T-Rice, Shuksan. All the exact same size. Judge was a solid hell no. T-rice and Shuksan were money. I could put the T-Rice/Shuksan liners in the Judge and it was good, but the Judge liners were just way thicker and crushed my toes. So it's not all equal, even in the same brand. Sizing should just be a starting point. For boots, over last 10 years when I buy, I just order 3-4 pairs, when they get to my house I wear them around my house extensively for a day or two till I'm sure about which ones and/or size is "it".. Then send the other pairs back for a refund. 

oh, 100%

just because you measure at one size doesn’t mean any boot in that size will fit you.

I’d probably go even farther and say that if a boot doesn’t feel right in your measured size, you should try on another model or brand vs sizing up in that same boot. 


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I usually don't like the angry snowboarder but I came across these tonight and there are some pretty solid tips. http://www.angrysnowboarder.com/boot-fitting-101-beating-bunions-and-bone-spurs-pt-1/

Theres also a pt 2 if you want even more tips

I'd try these on my acerras but I feel like I'm ready to try a new boot and take step back from boa (I can never get them to stay tight for me after each run I'm cranking them down) I'm probably going to heatmold my taxwoods this way when they come in. It will be the first boot i've heat molded in like 10 yrs.  A question about heat mold for anyone more knowledge able than me. Can I just heat mold the heel with the rice method and not worry about packing out the toes? Or if I don't put the extra pieces on my toes will it not really pack the toes out if I heat the whole boot? After watching the videos I feel like I should try heel wedges as well. He's got a whole series on boot fitting I'm pigeon toed as well, I also have minimal taylor bunions (6th pinky bone) as well and slight hammer toes my feet are just fucked but hes got some good tips for most that as well. I honestly didn't know snowboard boots had so many options. I knew there were a lot of tricks for ski boot fitting.

 

Also generally not a fan, but that series is pretty great.

Sadly finding snowboard shops with competent boot fitting is tough. The only one I've found, Tahoe Sports Hub, is only good because they also sell skis and have ski boot fitters around. Other than that, I generally go straight to ski shops and pay them for boot fitting services.


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2 days in the taxwoods with shred soles installed they check all the boxes for me. I didn't heat mold and no heel pain anymore and no more BOA coming loose after runs always. Its nice to have that upper strap on the boot as well. I think the rounded spine on the heel really helps with my issue also the liner is so much thicker than my adidas. They are a good mid-stiff boot I really like them. I also saw austin smith in the lift line and he was rocking them as well. 

A+ would recommend for sure

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my daughter digs them too. 

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Would-be medium pow day. Broke an upper speedzone lace first pull. I have a couple spares in my bag, but for some reason didn’t put the fucking wire tool in there. Repair shop didn’t have anything, which of course is dumb, and for some reason the channels in my right boot are too tight to thread it through on its own like they should. Tried for an hour and no dice. Some might say this is part of why they don’t like speed systems and prefer traditional laces, but I’d rather break a speed lace once every 10 years than use traditional laces every day.

edit: apparently best day of the season so far. Motherfucker!


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Edit: Meant for Captain's log thread but fuck it, I'm leaving it!

Solid day today, but can't help but be a bit disappointed. A storm was forecast last week that was talking about snow in terms of feet... and completely disappeared about 5 days out. 4-6 ft for the week turned into about a foot over a couple days, with a high snow line and high winds so rain crusts and super inconsistent wind-scoured snow.

Still had some dope turns and had a lot of fun once I realized I wasn't going to find bottomless turns, but had to stay on top of it today... got bucked a couple times transitioning between soft snow, rain crusts, and frozen spots. Switching from the United Shapes Cadet to the Orbit helped a lot with that.

The storm cycle that wasn't looked like it'd put us on pace for a solid base through the rest of the year, now we're sitting at around 60-80% of average season-to-date snowfall for the season depending on the resort. Low enough that I'm a little worried about the base if we hit a warm spell, high enough that things can still turn around with some stormy periods.


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Ha I think you meant for another thread.


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Anyone use after-market insoles? Have they been worth it (i.e. comfort, lessening fatigue, etc)?


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@duffalo I use Remind insoles, seems a few of the guys here use Shred insoles.

I like 'em. Dunno about placebo effect but I'm always happier with aftermarket insoles. YMMV…


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I have a super high arch and my boot footbeds are just feeling less supportive of late so I'm pretty sure it won't be placebo for me haha. Just want to get the most support and lifetime I can


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