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Posted by: @yukiotokosama

Thanks for the info. I like a deeper sidecut overall, so the 9.2 is a bit of a concern. You never know until you ride it though. I had the first year UR in a 161 and liked it other than the super fragile topsheet.

Don’t sweat it - there’s a distinct flex point between the bindings where the core is milled out. So relatively stiffer tips that soften up quickly but past the contact points, a flex point right in the middle. An opposite take to e.g. Capitas I’ve owned so far. You can twist the Suprateam easy enough (without it being overly flexible and as a result unstable) that tightening the turn radius is very ‘natural’ and doesn’t require a strong push with the legs to decamber. Plus that progressive sidecut part - push more from the back foot and it tightens up very abrubtly. It’s the same feeling on the Pantera 166 with a 9,6 m sidecut

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Curious on your take between the Suprateam and the Assassin Pro? I've had my eye on the Assassin Pro for years and in fact almost bought one over the Suprateam.

There are a couple of differences:

-Profile

The Suprateam is an old school true camber. The AP is a true camrock. There’s plenty of camber in the middle but also plenty of rocker in the tips. You know the typical pros and cons of both.

-Flex

Both have the same pattern (though the Supeateam has a slightly stiffer tail than the nose) where there is a flex point in the middle and relatively stiffer tips but the tips in the AP are stiff all the way till the end (very similar flex to the UR). The tips past the contact points on the Suprateam soften up very quickly and curve up harder. This, coupled with the fact that it is 162 and a wide it really makes the Suprateam a one board quiver for me. I have the float from the surface and these tips are likely the reason it handles moguls so well for a full camber board as it absorbs them to a certain degree. Not as great of a freight train on a eurocarve in some chunder or bumpy snow but really handles moguls so well for an ultralight snappy full camber.

The AP is only 156 so too small for me at 86 kg (that was a deal I couldn’t pass on) for a daily but due to this stiffer flex it can still charge really hard. For an all mountain freestyle camrock it has a great stability on edge, the tips don’t fold in a eurocarve for example. At the same time it is also butterable and forgiving because of all that rocker in the tips - you don’t feel the tips being so stiff while riding due to the rocker.

- Carving

I’m into longer sidecuts (so far from 13 boards in the quiver now all the 6 keepers atm are at least 8,5 m) and into full cambers so it’s obvious I’ll rate the Suprateam higher though I must say that due to the sturdy flex the small AP 156 in a camrock and 7,9 or so sidecut holds up really, really well. Once you fix what Salomon has done to the edge and you resharpen it, it also grips icy snow very well for that small board in a camrock (it blows Mercury 157 away here). Also radial vs progressive sidecut. Depends what you like. For switch I prefer the AP hands down.

- Float

No doubt if the AP was a ++160 wide for me it would float great for a twin, be it slush or powder. I can feel I miss these square cms here. E.g. Mercury in 157 being a mid-wide at the waist works better in slush while I can feel sinking on Asymulator 156. The AP 156 is in between these for me.

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@yeti I appreciate the detailed write up. Can't wait to ride the Suprateam. Should make a fine addition to the quiver and hope it slots into the daily driver role. I don't really have a daily right now as most of my boards are shaped.


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Posted by: @yeti

@yukiotokosama and @Vanni

Congratz on the picks guys.

The UR 161 is new but got a chance to hop on the 161 I borrowed from a friend of a friend. I had to grab this one after that. The amount of pop from the carves is truly scary at first. Carves like a dream (no true twin carves like that) and grips really hard including ice (really looked for icy windblown spots to test if the sidecut is indeed ‘obnoxious’ on ice before commiting to buying myself). Just keep the edge sharp because for whatever dumb reason Salomon detunes the whole edge (that new UR is dull af, same case with the Assasin Pro I also got brand new). I’d only add 5-6 mm in the width (9,5 US Tactical, 275 mm at the back insert is the optimal width for me). I like the width of the new version of the UR but that tight sidecut is a deal breaker for me.

Both are keepers for me.

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I tried my Ultimate Ride yesterday.

I can quote that grips really hard on ice!

it has an aggressive sidecut!

 

 


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Posted by: @vanni

I tried my Ultimate Ride yesterday.

I can quote that grips really hard on ice!

it has an aggressive sidecut!

Did you have to sharpen the edge or I was just unlucky with the detuning twice in a row?

How about the pop? I haven’t ridden this one ++ yet but at 18/-9 the pop was mind blowing.


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no, I didn't sharpen the edges, I took it from the wrap, and I only waxed, that's it.

I didn't ride for 1 year and half, due to covid situation, so I think I need more time on the UR, in winter, to fully understand the board. I wasn't at my best. I was rusty as AF.

I took it in the park too on the small jumps line, but I definitely need more time on it to evaluate the pop and other things.

It's definitely a poppy board, but I'm used carving on directional boards... I need more time and more speed on it, this winter.

I'ts a medium stiff board, not as stiff as my Squash, but definitely stiffer than my Kazu (that is fucking poppy 🤣 ). The sidecut is aggressive, as I said. I think it's the most grippy board I have been on.

Sidecut radius just above 8 meters, sounds about right to what I felt on the slopes.

It's definitely the most aggressive board in my quiver


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Flying to Baldface this year for the first time in about 15 years instead of driving.

Absolutely no idea where my old board bag ended up, so I had to grab a new one.

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Got a new beacon today… 

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@pow_hnd I just bought my first beacon, I was stoked when the dudes I ride with all turned around and bought them too.


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@pow_hnd

I have a Tracker 2. I imagine this is still a valid beacon for my limited use or do I need enlightening?


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They have an upgrade for the Tracker 2, you have to send it in if you want it fixed. There's a bug with the powersave mode that turns on after many hours, so the signal gets wonky. I haven't bothered yet, since you can just turn it off and on again, and it's good for several more hours. If you do really long trips where you might have to dig in and get rescued, you should consider it. Besides that, I haven't found any new beacons that would be better than the Tracker 2 for me.


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@pow_hnd

I have a Tracker 2. I imagine this is still a valid beacon for my limited use or do I need enlightening?

For limited use, yea, it's fine. But if you're going out more than 10 times, and in groups of more than 3 people, it's not the best choice by far. It has no marking capabilities and not the best range. But if you're only getting out 3-4 times a season, can't say that an upgrade is an absolute. Only thing that is sketchy is some of the first and second gen 3 antenna beacons don't play so well, in certain circumstances, with a cell phone close by...

 


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@pow_hnd

I have a Tracker 2. I imagine this is still a valid beacon for my limited use or do I need enlightening?

For limited use, yea, it's fine. But if you're going out more than 10 times, and in groups of more than 3 people, it's not the best choice by far. It has no marking capabilities and not the best range. But if you're only getting out 3-4 times a season, can't say that an upgrade is an absolute. Only thing that is sketchy is some of the first and second gen 3 antenna beacons don't play so well, in certain circumstances, with a cell phone close by...

 

I knew about the cellphone issue, though thanks for the reminder. I only employ it on a rare occasion I'm BC out west. Not getting a lot of use these days at all. If I start riding BC more again I'll upgrade then I guess.


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Went ahead with what should be my last purchase of gear for quite some time today. New set of DC T Rice boots and a pair of Now Drives ( with the new Hanger v3). I have really dialed my kit in over the last few years and have bought and sold enough decks to know where I am right now is exactly where I wanna be. So short of blowing up a deck, which I’ve only done once in 35 years of snowboarding, that’s it. 

The only thing I could see me doing is selling off a bunch of bindings, and getting the NOW quick change kit, but the bindings would easily cover those costs and leave me with some extra $$$ afterwards. Doing that would free up some storage space for the decks for sure.

As of today, all the extra $$ is going in the snowcat/heli fund.

I might even be letting my Stealth 63 go. As much as I love it, which I do, the no switch riding on it is a major turn off for me. 


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Hmmmmmmm, stealth.......


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Posted by: @pow_hnd

Went ahead with what should be my last purchase of gear for quite some time today. New set of DC T Rice boots and a pair of Now Drives ( with the new Hanger v3). I have really dialed my kit in over the last few years and have bought and sold enough decks to know where I am right now is exactly where I wanna be. So short of blowing up a deck, which I’ve only done once in 35 years of snowboarding, that’s it. 

The only thing I could see me doing is selling off a bunch of bindings, and getting the NOW quick change kit, but the bindings would easily cover those costs and leave me with some extra $$$ afterwards. Doing that would free up some storage space for the decks for sure.

As of today, all the extra $$ is going in the snowcat/heli fund.

I might even be letting my Stealth 63 go. As much as I love it, which I do, the no switch riding on it is a major turn off for me. 

TRice supposed to be stiffer for this season, or last? Heard some stuff about the liner, but don't know..

 


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