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13/02/2020 11:18 am  
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boards arrived today... first impressions they feel soft hand flexing. I was hoping they would feel more like a 5 not a 7 and I'm much bigger than the suggested rider weight its gonna feel like a 4 under foot prob. I'm not sure if I will even ride them.

How does the Aloha Vibes feel compared to the Kill Switch?  Is there much difference betweent the two handflexing them?

I can picture the AV feeling stiffer torsionally given the fat waist, but it would still be a bummer if it's a noodle longitudinally.


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13/02/2020 12:24 pm  

Both feel soft. Torsionally they don't feel that much better. Nitro Fusion is rated as a 7/10 its fuckin stiff. I might try the kill switch I just know im not a big fan of soft boards such a bummer. Snowboards need a universal system for stiffness its always all over the place.


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13/02/2020 2:15 pm  
Posted by: @parker

Both feel soft. Torsionally they don't feel that much better. Nitro Fusion is rated as a 7/10 its fuckin stiff. I might try the kill switch I just know im not a big fan of soft boards such a bummer. Snowboards need a universal system for stiffness its always all over the place.

Yea. 2017 Rome Blur was rated 8/10... it was MUCH less stiff than my Burton Malolo from like 2009 which was a 7/10. The United Shapes Cadet is "medium" flex but I'd call it significantly stiffer than the Blur. And then there was a circa 2014 Capita BSOD that was rated 6.5/10 was legit felt more like a 4... possibly the softest snowboard I've ever strapped into.


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13/02/2020 11:15 pm  

Nitro rates most of their boards a 7. If the 1st year Fusion was a 7, I guess the Santoku would maybe be a 4, but definitely not a 7. Or the regular Team or many others...


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14/02/2020 4:58 am  

18/19 UNW8 feels crazy stiff. Keep thinking with time it will soften at least a little but it’s not letting up. Stiffest board on my rack, no doubt.


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14/02/2020 6:21 am  
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Nitro rates most of their boards a 7. If the 1st year Fusion was a 7, I guess the Santoku would maybe be a 4, but definitely not a 7. Or the regular Team or many others...

true...


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14/02/2020 6:47 am  

Nitro Cannon 173 is a 7/10 on paper but a wet noodle in reality. 


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14/02/2020 9:34 am  

haha. yeah the only accurate nitros have been og squash, banker and fusion those are all stiff. 


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14/02/2020 9:42 am  
Posted by: @parker

haha. yeah the only accurate nitros have been og squash, banker and fusion those are all stiff. 

Yeah but even those I would probably rate 8-9 for myself and for nitro to have a bit more accurate of a spectrum. The graph they used to separate board models was actually pretty accurate always.


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14/02/2020 1:30 pm  

The Nitro Pantera SC 163 that I owned was definitely accurately rated.  It was by far the stiffest board I've ever owned and made moderately stiff boards like the Custom X seem midflex in comparison.  I can't imagine anything short of a dedicated race or BX board could be stiffer.


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14/02/2020 1:50 pm  

@yuns I'd like to try a Pantera. One of the few 'old-school' late 90s/early 2000s style long stiff directional boards left. 

 


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17/02/2020 12:22 pm  

Review kill switch is dope. Haha handles pow well and chunder. Not as soft as I thought it would be. I'm a fan. It also could be because I'm at Jackson and it's my 1st day of the season so my stoke is really high. It's been a while since I've ridden the squash but it reminds me of it.


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28/02/2020 11:53 pm  

quite the shot

 


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02/03/2020 1:50 am  

Holy shit.

TLDR: The Pentaquark 156 does everything you would wish for a carving specific board that retails for ~800eur and what the specs suggest. 

 

I don't ride a lot of carving specific boards. When the day goes along in the mountains, I just get too peculiar to do a bit of everything to be limited to something too specialized. The conditions on the day I rode it were however great for just charging around; new snow the past week, pockets of pow but viz too low to go hunting lines in the higher altitudes. However, the board feels nice as a full camber board to launch off sidehits and the nose shape and flex helps you bend into those quick, deep and steep tranny bits as well. The snow was perfect, no ice or hard patches, just grippy stuff. That might affect on how I felt about the board. I started the day on the 162 PYL, but after an hour switched to the Penta and rode the rest of the day, about 6 hours on it.

I don't remember who coined it a bit back, but Motherhsip built lightweight boards tend to feel "hollow". I think that's pretty good description without being able to explain it much better. My aether as well as my 1st year Kazu has that. When you land, you hear a higher pitched ping rather than a thud. They feel more lively rather than planted and able to crush through everything. The Kazu, Aether and Theme definitely require you to be more of a light footed rider to get the best of them. The Pentaquark however, while quite light for what it is, is a solid tank in feel. 

Versatile turner! Doesn't pull you in, but locks in like a motherfucker and allows you to pull really deep turns or just smooth long ones. On edge, it just cuts through the choppiest stuff and stays stable, as long as you have the legs for it to push it through that turn. It's a fucking saber. It is stiffer and livelier in the nose, so it doesn't feel nearly as stable flat basing going through chop and moguls than the PYL for instance, just wants to send and buck you = more leg work and being light footed helps. It was less work just carving through everything. Pop is great off the tail, but feels a bit weird. Might be that it wants to throw me earlier than my other boards on which I'm used to bending more for ollies. Timing issue perhaps. Landings just feel like you're sucked into the ground, gotta be precise. Had no trouble flying 180s and 360s off side hits and rollers. 

If you have speed, just pull a circle carve. It likes to do it more at speed than a Woodcarver, but just as easy as it just feels so good on edge turning, not slowing you down even if you really push it. 

Flex is definitely not a 9 in my book. I'd maybe put it at 7,5 and I'm glad I got the 156 instead of a 160. Plenty of board for me and more versatile. 

I popped a switch 360 into a toeside revert turn at a slightly slower speed trying to explain to my brother how to do those, and the board just bent much more than I thought possible. Drew a clean cut half circle going up the hill for a bit and the diameter of that was maybe 2-2,5 meters. Doing regular toeside carves at slower speed, I couldn't imitate such a tight turn. Maybe it was the nose being flexier and how I pushed into it all weird, tail being in the air, I dunno. But yeah, I like that about a board. As I said and as @spenser has pointed out many times, a longer sidecut board that you can power into a tighter arc is a more versatile turner!

I was centered at 55cm (mini disc), with +18/-3. Gonna play around a bit, maybe go to my usual 54cm and a bit more forward on the angles. A lot of pow coming in, so might be a while when I grab it again. 

Oh yeah, and didn't wax and the base was faster than a condition waxed PYL through cold and warm stuff alike. Good structure and overall finish. 

I got a high pitched sound on toeside turns that got higher the more speed I had. Like an annoying kazoo. Theory is compatibility with my bindings and the strange feel on the top sheet. @gd have you had that?

Been riding over 3 weeks now without skipping a day. Nice to have a bit of a type on the internet on a day off..


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02/03/2020 2:11 am  
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