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coleslawed
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24/10/2019 1:45 pm  

I don’t know the science behind it, but Futurelight is pretty magical. they have a display that demonstrates waterproofing/breathability by putting a layer of Futurelight in the middle of a cylinder, putting water on top, and blowing air from the bottom. no water going down, lots of air bubbles coming up. “competitor” next to it, still no water going down, but minimal air coming up. one would assume that’s gore because of the waterproofing, but could be something else super waterproof and not breathable at all. 

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24/10/2019 2:07 pm  

I think these high-end fabrics are neat and all, but even at proform price or equivalent super sale, it’s still a hard price to swallow. Like, I would totally wear the Holden corkshell stuff, but even on sale, the $750 jacket still cost as much as a good Gore-Tex jacket at full price. The Holden stuff that has been priced inline with the likes of AK, for example, is worthy... they just don’t do those pieces every year. For example, last year’s 3L burn pant is $300 retail. That’s pretty reasonable for 20K 3L Holden quality.

I gave in and bought the Hemlock pants last night. Had been wanting to get a new pair of black pants anyway. The subtle color blocking is kind of cool.

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24/10/2019 3:19 pm  
Posted by: @coleslawed

I don’t know the science behind it, but Futurelight is pretty magical. they have a display that demonstrates waterproofing/breathability by putting a layer of Futurelight in the middle of a cylinder, putting water on top, and blowing air from the bottom. no water going down, lots of air bubbles coming up. “competitor” next to it, still no water going down, but minimal air coming up. one would assume that’s gore because of the waterproofing, but could be something else super waterproof and not breathable at all. 

Wait and see for me. They used to do the same demos with eVent, and I wasn't that impressed with that stuff when I had it in a rain jacket.


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24/10/2019 3:34 pm  

^ You are right about eVent demos!

I still have eVent stuff from Westcomb. Bibs didn't last at all, but jacket was solid. I was happy with WPB performance, though... What I didn't love was Wescomb customer service when I contacted them about the bibs. 


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24/10/2019 3:51 pm  

Homeschool did the same thing with their fabrics. Even if they are technically better, that comparison test is still just a marketing push.


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24/10/2019 6:20 pm  
Posted by: @coleslawed

I don’t know the science behind it, but Futurelight is pretty magical. they have a display that demonstrates waterproofing/breathability by putting a layer of Futurelight in the middle of a cylinder, putting water on top, and blowing air from the bottom. no water going down, lots of air bubbles coming up. “competitor” next to it, still no water going down, but minimal air coming up. one would assume that’s gore because of the waterproofing, but could be something else super waterproof and not breathable at all. 

or it could be something they put there to make their shit look good. columbia or something. its all marketing.

Future light is just "nanospinning"

Is Nanospinning Really New?

There have been a few other attempts at somewhat similar products in recent years. Notably, Outdoor Research launched an electrospun membrane in the 2018 Interstellar Jacket. Polartec NeoShell is another similar membrane construction.


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25/10/2019 9:40 am  

^ Cool, I didn't know this about OR.

Have Compound NeoShell pants from FLylow and they were pretty awesome 👍 too bad they only lasted a few seasons, the highback rubbed off the internal material.


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28/10/2019 12:36 pm  

Just got Holden Hemlock pants, size large like I normally wear. Definitely a baggy fit with plenty waist, could have easily gone medium, but this is how I like it. Would have to compare, but definitely similar to Volcom L pant, probably just as baggy. Feels bigger than AK. Interestingly, the slightly more black material in color blocked areas is stretchy, but main material is not. Feel really nice overall.

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24/11/2019 4:54 am  

Do we still like L1?  This years line seems kinda light but glad they’re still kicking.  I got some overall bibs last season I’ve been really happy with, probably won’t ever wear regular snowpants again.  Ordered a camo 2019 Legacy and a black 2019 Wilcox on the way from Evo, hoping one is a keeper.  Haven’t ever seen them in any shops in NY. 

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24/11/2019 6:33 am  

Got some L1 bibs last season. After a week of use, got holes in both of my pockets. Keys left, a phone in the right one. Even fit wasn't great.. Sticking with my freebirds thanks.


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24/11/2019 8:29 am  

Bummed to hear that


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24/11/2019 12:08 pm  
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Bummed to hear that

The shell material was good. Slightly breezier than the freebirds. But damn, nearly lost my keys. Snow gaiters prevented them from falling. Must've been riding like that for a couple hours. Single stiching and light materials, no good. 

Felt tight and they sort of lift up everytime I crouched and had to keep pushing them down. Articulation did not work for me.

Had to google, think it was the yamanouchi model.

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26/11/2019 3:53 pm  

Anyone have much experience w/ DC outerwear? Looking at a pair of bibs and an anorak from their Black Friday sales


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27/11/2019 12:53 am  

i got the top of the line jacket from dc for this winter.

the cut is nice and material feels good but seams zippers etc feels like a budget jacket. 

im glad i did not pay full retail. 


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27/11/2019 1:24 am  
Posted by: @tp1kenobi

Anyone have much experience w/ DC outerwear? Looking at a pair of bibs and an anorak from their Black Friday sales

I’ve had a few mid range 15k jackets and they have been fine.. The new  Sympatex membrane 45k they use on their top end stuff is good though- I have some Billabong bibs with it and is good so far! 

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