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fiddle
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alright got my Dakine Sawtooth and Stoker bibs and they are fuckin sick, excellent fit and hoot fits great over my helmet.  6'2" 200lbs and XL in both, all black 💣 .  First time having a full matching kit and all 3L gore-tex, way stoked.  Catskills mountains are blowing snow this week LFG!! 


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still trying to sell these large black Stokers NWT if anyone's hunting 


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havent read all 58 pages of this one, but has anyone got gloves that can stand up to a PNW rain day?  jacket/pants im good, but the gloves are a weak point.  bonus points if they have kids sizes.  


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Posted by: @unsatisfiedus

havent read all 58 pages of this one, but has anyone got gloves that can stand up to a PNW rain day?  jacket/pants im good, but the gloves are a weak point.  bonus points if they have kids sizes.  

POW Royal or POW Stealth (POW also offers a kid's gortex glove/mitt).


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Posted by: @pacendubya
Posted by: @unsatisfiedus

havent read all 58 pages of this one, but has anyone got gloves that can stand up to a PNW rain day?  jacket/pants im good, but the gloves are a weak point.  bonus points if they have kids sizes.  

POW Royal or POW Stealth (POW also offers a kid's gortex glove/mitt).

thanks.  looking into it.  


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I picked up an Arc'teryx Beta AR jacket on sale. Wore it the past 3 days riding and just... goddamn they make good outerwear. Completely blows my AK out of the water IMO (maybe not the AK457 stuff, but I'd rather have this than a Hover). 

Fit is perfect. I can raise my arms fully overhead and the bottom hem doesn't move. The bottom hem is cut slanted so my legs don't get caught hiking or crouching, but I still have full ass coverage. Nice trim technical for but I can easily fit multiple midlauera underneath.  It moves better than my stretch jackets. Just impeccable cut. 

Super thoughtfully put together. Little things like how they give you an extended velcro on cuffs so you can ride loose or tight. Or elevated pockets that are still accessible with a pack waist strap. Or having perfect peripheral vision with the hood up over my helmet, with minimal wind exposure. 

It's a SUPER minimalist shell and I wish it had a few more features: powder skirt, pass pocket, and  goggle/glove pockets. Arc'teryx has jackets with those features, they just didn't fit me as well. But as long as I'm rocking bibs, I can work around those limitations. If Arc'teryx made a chest-high bib for resort riding and touring that fit me, I'd have bought that and retired my AK Freebirds. 


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Cross-posted from Burton thread:

Picked up a set of yellow AK457 / "AK Japan" Guide Hi-tops. My Freebirds are getting a little haggard after about 60 days. Was looking for a potential supplement to alternate out and eventual replacement.

Sizing is a bit funny. Roughly one size up compared to standard AK, but with much more variable inseam. The Freebird has a consistent 32.5" inseam across all sizes, including the large. The Guide has inseam as small as 30" on the XS and then maxes out about 34" on XL plus. Below the knee also has an almost bell-bottom-esque flare to them. Lot of extra material below the knee, which is a bit annoying but manageable.

Love the yellow color. I was skeptical but looks way better in person than in the stock photos. I value high visibility-- especially in backcountry but even inbounds. Losing friends and the wife in a sea of muted colors is a constant struggle. The new jacket I picked up is a pretty boring shade of blue, so I wanted to pop a bit with the pants.

They have some really cool, interesting features. Well thought out beacon pocket. Will probably start ditching my harness. Insane amount of potential ventilation, the typical lateral thigh and "Testi-cool" vents, plus a drop seat and the center zipper. Should be great for touring.

I wish the AK457 crew didn't use so much mesh and just had hardshell up through the back. Existing venting options are plenty and the mesh feels like overkill. Super delicate material and with potential for snow to go down the back on a good tumble. They also have the same mesh at the top section of the boot gaiters, which seems weird. Maybe I'll appreciate working up a sweat touring, but feels like potential for moisture ingress if I have to posthole and heat loss while stationary.

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Turning them inside out and looking at the seams and tape job, I'd give them a solid B. Not Arc'teryx grade, but solid effort.

I was a bit back and forth on them because of the extra length, I'm leaning towards keeping them. I've been trying to find a good supplement / replacement bib basically since last season and this is the first one that's come up that balances lightweight 3L, high vis, good construction, and good enough fit. Only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger long term is the long inseam and the bell bottom thing. Annoying aesthetically and I'm a little worried about stepping all over the hems while touring and kickturning and whatever.

Thanks to @pow_hnd for passing along these spec sheets from the Burton JP site.

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Also a little update on this bit from my last post:
Posted by: @kimchi

I picked up an Arc'teryx Beta AR jacket on sale. Wore it the past 3 days riding and just... goddamn they make good outerwear. Completely blows my AK out of the water IMO (maybe not the AK457 stuff, but I'd rather have this than a Hover). 

Like I said above, the pants don't hold up to Arc'teryx standard. Seams are noticeably bigger, and the seam tape is a bit sloppy in a few spots. The seam tape job is about on par with my Freebirds, which is lifting and abrading in a few areas (I'll probably send them in for warranty after the season).

If Arc'teryx had a good option I'd have gone that route, but their mens pants and bibs have a super skier-y technical slim cut (I've tried them on). They actually just released a pretty great looking 3L women's bib, if they had that in a men's version (ideally with some color) I would have grabbed it.

Edit: Decided to send these back. The extra length and the bell-bottom fit below the knee were too much for me. If they closer to Freebirds I would have kept them.


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Does anybody have info on the past years of the AK pant fits? Would say a 2018 Swash fit similar to a 2020 Hover? I know it's different for this year, the Japanese site measurements are gold so that info is much appreciated. I can use the aforementioned 2020 Hovers as a baseline since I've got a pair in the house.


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@peruna Yes... The only ones that fit smaller was the freebird jacket. They fixed that with the hover stretch. The cyclic stuff has always been more articulated, and obviously the japan guide stuff will fit smaller still. Cyclic and Guide I go up a size everything else is good, but I'm also right in between sizes.

6'1 220
Cyclic XL
Hover L
Swash L
Guide XL


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Tried out the AB trenchover and elastic boss kit in the wetness yesterday. Mostly snowing, but heavy moisture, transitioned to a brief misty snain later in the day. I seemed to stay dry through the material itself, but front of my upper layer ended up a little damp. I think it’s a combo of coming through the chest zipper and the fact that you have to unzip to access your phone, which I do frequently either on the lift or for filming. Waterproof zipper or a little flap would ensure no leaking, plus an outside zipper for phone pocket. That’s my one gripe with the jacket, but I don’t necessarily plan to wear it when it’s that wet, just wanted to see what its limit was.

No big deal, but the only other thing I don’t like is the hand pockets. Obviously they work, but I keep the gopro in one and access it frequently and on the fly. It’s not as quick/streamlined as others - the flap/velcro makes it slightly cumbersome in comparison. Sounds dumb, but I notice as “a filmer”

Bottom layer and the rest of my top stayed dry, so I think the material and membrane is good enough.

In action, I dig the elastic cuff a lot, plus the waistband/built in strap belt.

No idea what I would put in the kangaroo pouch. Seems weird to have stuff right over your stomach. Maybe a goggle lens, but I’ve never carried a spare.

I want a beast trenchover with outside phone pocket.


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Has anyone tried Oyuki mitts?  They have piqued my interest.  


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@pacendubya I have a pair of the Shaka mitts and another pair of mittens, not sure the model name. Both are nice. The regular mittens don’t have individual fingers in the liner, Shaka mitts do. Both are warm enough for anything but super cold days. The leather is nice and soft so 50 ish days on the Shaka mitts shows some pretty significant wear. If you can find them on sale they’re a great buy. My wife has a pair of mittens that she enjoys. They have a snot wipe on the thumb which is a must have for me when it comes to gloves. 


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Posted by: @jabilitation

@pacendubya I have a pair of the Shaka mitts and another pair of mittens, not sure the model name. Both are nice. The regular mittens don’t have individual fingers in the liner, Shaka mitts do. Both are warm enough for anything but super cold days. The leather is nice and soft so 50 ish days on the Shaka mitts shows some pretty significant wear. If you can find them on sale they’re a great buy. My wife has a pair of mittens that she enjoys. They have a snot wipe on the thumb which is a must have for me when it comes to gloves. 

Thanks.  How do you find the profile?  I have a strong preference for lower profile, non-bulky mitts with relatively short cuffs.  The Tamashii's look sick...


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@pacendubya they should be right up your alley. The ones I have are similar in profile to my AK tech gloves. 


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I have the Pep Gore-Tex Trigger Mitts. Along with the separated index finger, there are individual fingers in the mitten part. Construction, quality, and fit are all top notch. This is my second season with them, and they still look and feel almost brand new. Oyuki is my new favorite mitten/glove brand.


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