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Posted by: @duffalo

Snagged a pair of elastic boss pants and I think they’re the most comfortable pants I’ve ever worn. Wish they were a tad more fitted and a little less baggy after the knee patches, but I can deal considering how good they felt

They are also my go to pants, and that has been my experience as well.  Super comfortable, reasonable looking pants.  I actually like the bagginess because I have big legs and a big arse and they don't ever feel constrictive.


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They’re slimmer than “full fits” like Volcom GPT (L pant in my case). I would go XL if I got another pair, rather than my typical large. But I agree, most comfy pants I’ve ever had. Everything needs that waistband setup, at least.


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What you guys take on Rab outerwear?


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never heard of it


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English brand that is in the same vein as TNF but more centered around mountaineering.  Never seen it on the hill.  Just puffer jackets around town.


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borderline hipster stuff with nice quality and casual colors, but mostly for someone with a climbers body


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It seems similar to Arc but a lot cheaper. I love a 3L with a two way zipper


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Posted by: @crustacean

What you guys take on Rab outerwear?

They have a good reputation in more general outdoorsy world... climbing, mountaineering, etc. I wouldn't put them quite on the Arc'teryx level, but they're upper end for sure. I have a lightweight windbreaker and a couple hybrid merino baselayers from them that are great.

I didn't realize they made snow outerwear, though. Not sure if that line is new or if it just flew under my radar for a while.


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What are you guys running for baselayers? Full merino, synthetic or some blend of both?

I am currently looking for a new set but not sure if merino is worth it.  


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Merino: more expensive, less stink, less durable, better temperature regulation. Requires more moisture moisture to soak, but takes longer to dry if it gets wet. (but still insulates while wet). Smells kind of weird while wet, like a wet animal... which makes sense. Compostable and renewable. Animal cruelty concerns for the cheaper stuff (see: mulesing; note most of the big outdoor brands like Smartwool, Icebreaker, et al. are mulesing-free). Personally I like the way merino feels better, but some are very sensitive to it. Doesn't retain shape as well.

Synthetic: cheaper, more stink, more durable, gets wet faster but dries quicker. Less comfortable while wet. Emerging concerns around microplastic shedding due to wash cycles.

Going forward I'd swing for muleseing-free merino. I like merino and the watershed stuff is really concerning... strictly from a selfish perspective, that shit builds up in my seafood.

Environment concerns aside, I was a merino guy but have mostly stuck to synthetics for the past 5 years or so. Main reason I ditched merinos is durability concerns, every piece I've ever owned has had multiple holes develop within a couple seasons. For future pieces I'll hand wash and line dry. Every piece I've bought has said machine washable and dryable, but I suspect that's accelerated their decline.

I also sweat a lot with heavy exertion, and find synthetics work better for my personal comfort. This generally only matters if I'm hiking or splitboarding, though. The comfort factor isn't THAT bad with merino.

I bust out my sewed up merino stuff if I'm on a longer trip (fewer pieces I need to pack since I can wear it multiple times without stink) or if I'm concerned about exposure (if I'm caught outdoors for a night, I'd much rather be wearing merino).

I've owned a few merino/synthetic blends and don't like them. They have the worst of both worlds IMO. They're fragile and they still stink. Newer or different blends may balance those drawbacks better, but just fully commit to one or the other IMO.


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I mix between homeschool (light & midweight sets), AK expedition set, and a merino ninja suit. All kinda random day to day.

I love homeschool’s ability to relieve a little more sweat (less “buildup” in my experience) and dry a little faster, so I always wear it for splitting, or days I know I’ll hike more than once. Great stuff for the northwest. AK expedition has been my go-to single later for years, always works great for me, and the ninja comes out on occasion with no rhyme or reason.

I get the merino durability concern.. my ninja has various little holes, but the main one was from slamming into a tree & tearing my MCL, so can’t fault it. If I were currently looking, I’d be searching for more homeschool or those like it, with cocona or another highly-wicking material, but I’m not picky. You can find leftovers from past seasons for relatively cheap, in my case about 70%+ off.

What I really want to try is a ninja suit pro. Should have snagged one for $100 last summer when everyone was doing deep covid sales.


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Always a compression top and bottom. CWX Stabilyx bottoms. Often I'll just run this.

If below 30 temps then I might add light merino 1/4 zip shirt.  I've had a bit of luck with a lightweight hooded sun shirt if it's windy.

Since switching to bibbers I'll often just run the above with a shell. If I need more warmth then a lightweight down hoodie too.

I feel like merino holds heat more than the synthetics for the weight. I feel like down breathes more than synthetic midlayers. Though that's just my little feelies. It may not hold true.

I really never run the mid weight or heavy weight options I own. Either merino or synthetic. 

In the summer if I'm hiking where I always opt for synthetics and never merino.


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I run Ninja suit Merino all resort days...

Posted by: @spenser

What I really want to try is a ninja suit pro.

This is what I run splitboarding and it's a fucking dream. Best layer I've ever had for splitting, the soft-shell components make it so great, with the normal merino sometimes it was just too thin/light when windy or crazy cold, but putting on a fleece or puffy would be too much, the pro is just right. As much as I like the regular ninja suit for resort days, I could live without it... Not so for the pro and touring, I'll never switch to anything else. 


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Thanks guys, interesting read.

I already own a Merino Ninjasuit and some lightweight synthetic Burton baselayers. Found some Icebreaker Oasis stuff for 50% today, so I will give that a try as well and see what works best. Worst case I can use it for running, so should def be worth it.


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Anyone have any input on how the kid's Volcom outerwear fits? They have a size chart but Im always a little skeptical...


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