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Posted by: @notmikebuckley

Kilroy Pow and Cartel Xs came in, pretty stoked

How are the Cartel x’s? Do they seem stiffer?


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The X should be the same stiffness as previous Cartel's (still 45% fiberglass/nylon blend in the base), but with the addition of the new mini hammock for grip.

standard Cartel is closer to what the Mission has been the last few years (and the Mission became an upgraded Custom).


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I mainly got them for the hammock (haha) so I’ll back what Cole said^


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Sensei marketing story doesn't really add up for me.

"There's always an exception to the rule, and in this day and age of short, squat powder boards, it's this long, narrow powder board that's breaking all the rules."

Weight recommendations would put me on a 151, which would certainly result in a narrow board. But I would be a bigger size on literally every other Burton board, not even taking of other brands' boards into consideration. Also it is rated super good for powder being a super narrow full camber board with no taper and not that much of a difference in nose/tail volumes.

It seems like a good board if I was to size up considerably, but kinda feels like I am missing something?


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Kinda reminds me of how I felt about my cheetah, it was sick on steep and fast terrain, but once terrain leveled out or the snow was heavy, sank like a brick.  


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Posted by: @picasso

Sensei marketing story doesn't really add up for me.

"There's always an exception to the rule, and in this day and age of short, squat powder boards, it's this long, narrow powder board that's breaking all the rules."

Weight recommendations would put me on a 151, which would certainly result in a narrow board. But I would be a bigger size on literally every other Burton board, not even taking of other brands' boards into consideration. Also it is rated super good for powder being a super narrow full camber board with no taper and not that much of a difference in nose/tail volumes.

It seems like a good board if I was to size up considerably, but kinda feels like I am missing something?

Yea. You're missing the fomo. Gotta fomo buy. Then rave about it to justify the purchase. Then offload it saying it's the king shit but quiver overlap with a board you ride more (probably the Super 8). rinse. repeater. 


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Posted by: @notmikebuckley

Kinda reminds me of how I felt about my cheetah, it was sick on steep and fast terrain, but once terrain leveled out or the snow was heavy, sank like a brick.  

I could see it working like that yeah. IIRC Danny is also riding it with Free Thinker graphics on some steep & deep terrain in Joy.


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Thanks to Burton opening their Performer proform program to healthcare professionals this year, I ordered a Big Gulp 164 and a pair of Malavitas yesterday. First Burton bindings in almost a decade and first new Burton Board in more than that. Looks like I will have to wait a few weeks to get stuff (board was backordered), but excited to give this setup a try this Winter. I went Re-Flex on the bindings. EST seems wack and I wouldn't be able to try them on other boards. The board's dimensions look rad to me, though I am curious if the smaller-radius sidecut will make the board feel twitchy or unstable at speed. Should be a good circle carver though.


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I really want a big gulp, looks sick


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Posted by: @matty

Thanks to Burton opening their Performer proform program to healthcare professionals this year, I ordered a Big Gulp 164 and a pair of Malavitas yesterday. First Burton bindings in almost a decade and first new Burton Board in more than that. Looks like I will have to wait a few weeks to get stuff (board was backordered), but excited to give this setup a try this Winter. I went Re-Flex on the bindings. EST seems wack and I wouldn't be able to try them on other boards. The board's dimensions look rad to me, though I am curious if the smaller-radius sidecut will make the board feel twitchy or unstable at speed. Should be a good circle carver though.

Big Gulp looks amazing, but still debating how it will be any more funner than a Panhandler, which I dont get to use as much as Id like.

EST is awesome, unless you want to switch between other brands boards.


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Posted by: @picasso

Sensei marketing story doesn't really add up for me.

"There's always an exception to the rule, and in this day and age of short, squat powder boards, it's this long, narrow powder board that's breaking all the rules."

Weight recommendations would put me on a 151, which would certainly result in a narrow board. But I would be a bigger size on literally every other Burton board, not even taking of other brands' boards into consideration. Also it is rated super good for powder being a super narrow full camber board with no taper and not that much of a difference in nose/tail volumes.

It seems like a good board if I was to size up considerably, but kinda feels like I am missing something?

So the thing to know about the boards designed by Masa-san is that he's not a big guy. Like 5'6" ish. And he designs them for the Japanese market. Burton then pushes 'em global* and writes marketing copy and whacked out size recommendations that might move them with people who obsess about that stuff (westerners) rather than the designed purpose of the thing (Japanese).

That said, Masa himself told me—5'11, 180lbs— to not go smaller than the 161, which is the size he designed and rides.

Last year, the Moon Buggy, same story. No Japanese who was paying attention bought the 158. (The guys at Mojane even wrote: "Don't consider the 158. If you want a smaller board get the Hometown Hero"). That board was designed to be a big boy. And I saw plenty of 5'6" Japanese dudes on 168s. (And I so so so do love mine.)

If you're thinking Sensei, go 161 at least, 170 to be sure to float.

 

* Notice you can now get AK457 on burton.com US, labelled "AK Japan"… Fujiwara-san getting the same treatment now. I wonder if they shifted the size labels…


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That’s what I was thinking, I’m your same size and would go 170 in the sensei

I’ve never used a size calculator to get an idea of what I should ride, but I have tried a couple of the different versions out there just to see what they say. Even if you max out some of the selections to be the most aggressive rider available on their spectrum, they still grossly under-gun. No burton, I’m not about to hop on a custom 54


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Posted by: @bopuc2

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* Notice you can now get AK457 on burton.com US, labelled "AK Japan"… Fujiwara-san getting the same treatment now. I wonder if they shifted the size labels…

On the AK Japan jacket and bibs listings on the Burton website, they say to "Size up one size for standard [ak] sizing" and I believe that the Japan stuff is the only AK outerwear they offer in XXXL (because that would be equivalent to the XXL size that much of the rest of the line is available in). It's definitely some nice outerwear, though the gear loops on the jacket chest are a little impractical.


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I'm kinda diggin the castlerock Banshey kit..


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i got the microfleece pants from the japan/guide/ak457 set. one size up worked for me. and i love them so much. 


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