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Posted by: @jako
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Finally got a '21 HTH (156W).  Not sure I have a reason to hold onto my Deep Thinker any longer.  I've only ridden the HTH on groomers so far but it's SO much more fun than the DT on the man made ribbons of white.  I think it's because the tail is a bit softer.easier to pop back to regular. 

Enjoy it 🙂 I am also considering buying one because of all the hype about it, although I cannot decide whether to buy 156 or 156W. I am in 10.5 US Photons (I hope I'll be able to size down to 10 US Adidas Tactical - but that is not such a big difference) and in the past I was more satisfied with slightly narrower boards than wider ones. I am just overthinking it for a few weeks now - and I hate it.

If you're worried about it, get the wide. I have size 10 Adidas Tactical Lexicons. Minimum I'm comfortable with is about 255 mm waist width, anything less than that makes me nervous when I'm driving carves. I prefer more like 260-ish waist widths even if I don't "need" the extra width. Still manageable in all conditions, little bit extra float in pow, and never need to think about whether I have enough clearance.


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Picked up a set of yellow AK457 / "AK Japan" Guide Hi-tops. My Freebirds are getting a little haggard after about 60 days. Was looking for a potential supplement to alternate out and eventual replacement.

Sizing is a bit funny. Roughly one size up compared to standard AK, but with much more variable inseam. The Freebird has a consistent 32.5" inseam across all sizes, including the large. The Guide has inseam as small as 30" on the XS and then maxes out about 34" on XL plus. Below the knee also has an almost bell-bottom-esque flare to them. Lot of extra material below the knee, which is a bit annoying but manageable.

Love the yellow color. I was skeptical but looks way better in person than in the stock photos. I value high visibility-- especially in backcountry but even inbounds. Losing friends and the wife in a sea of muted colors is a constant struggle. The new jacket I picked up is a pretty boring shade of blue, so I wanted to pop a bit with the pants.

They have some really cool, interesting features. Well thought out beacon pocket. Will probably start ditching my harness. Insane amount of potential ventilation, the typical lateral thigh and "Testi-cool" vents, plus a drop seat and the center zipper. Should be great for touring.

I wish the AK457 crew didn't use so much mesh and just had hardshell up through the back. Existing venting options are plenty and the mesh feels like overkill. Super delicate material and with potential for snow to go down the back on a good tumble. They also have the same mesh at the top section of the boot gaiters, which seems weird. Maybe I'll appreciate working up a sweat touring, but feels like potential for moisture ingress if I have to posthole and heat loss while stationary.

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Turning them inside out and looking at the seams and tape job, I'd give them a solid B. Not Arc'teryx grade, but solid effort.

I was a bit back and forth on them because of the extra length, I'm leaning towards keeping them. I've been trying to find a good supplement / replacement bib basically since last season and this is the first one that's come up that balances lightweight 3L, high vis, good construction, and good enough fit. Only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger long term is the long inseam and the bell bottom thing. Annoying aesthetically and I'm a little worried about stepping all over the hems while touring and kickturning and whatever.

Thanks to @pow_hnd for passing along these spec sheets from the Burton JP site.

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Edit: Decided to send these back. The extra length and the bell-bottom fit below the knee were too much for me. If they closer to Freebirds I would have kept them.


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It is interesting to see how many of you, who has smaller feet then myself, prefer wider boards. However, my binding angles are more 15/-15ish... 

@kimchi

I do not reckon that the same model in the same size but with a different width noticeable improve the float of the board. Of course, more board means more float, but it would be more significant if the size of the same board model is also increased, IMHO.


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Posted by: @kimchi

Picked up a set of yellow AK457 / "AK Japan" Guide Hi-tops. My Freebirds are getting a little haggard after about 60 days. Was looking for a potential supplement to alternate out and eventual replacement.

Sizing is a bit funny. Roughly one size up compared to standard AK, but with much more variable inseam. The Freebird has a consistent 32.5" inseam across all sizes, including the large. The Guide has inseam as small as 30" on the XS and then maxes out about 34" on XL plus. Below the knee also has an almost bell-bottom-esque flare to them. Lot of extra material below the knee, which is a bit annoying but manageable.

Love the yellow color. I was skeptical but looks way better in person than in the stock photos. I value high visibility-- especially in backcountry but even inbounds. Losing friends and the wife in a sea of muted colors is a constant struggle. The new jacket I picked up is a pretty boring shade of blue, so I wanted to pop a bit with the pants.

They have some really cool, interesting features. Well thought out beacon pocket. Will probably start ditching my harness. Insane amount of potential ventilation, the typical lateral thigh and "Testi-cool" vents, plus a drop seat and the center zipper. Should be great for touring.

I wish the AK457 crew didn't use so much mesh and just had hardshell up through the back. Existing venting options are plenty and the mesh feels like overkill. Super delicate material and with potential for snow to go down the back on a good tumble. They also have the same mesh at the top section of the boot gaiters, which seems weird. Maybe I'll appreciate working up a sweat touring, but feels like potential for moisture ingress if I have to posthole and heat loss while stationary.

image

 

Turning them inside out and looking at the seams and tape job, I'd give them a solid B. Not Arc'teryx grade, but solid effort.

I was a bit back and forth on them because of the extra length, I'm leaning towards keeping them. I've been trying to find a good supplement / replacement bib basically since last season and this is the first one that's come up that balances lightweight 3L, high vis, good construction, and good enough fit. Only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger long term is the long inseam and the bell bottom thing. Annoying aesthetically and I'm a little worried about stepping all over the hems while touring and kickturning and whatever.

Thanks to @pow_hnd for passing along these spec sheets from the Burton JP site.

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Not impressed with Burton AK. Returning a Hover jacket with less than 30 days on it. 
I just picked up Trew Trewth bibs and they seem to be very well built and thought out. I’m 6’2” 185lbs and the Large fits perfect. 


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Posted by: @jako

It is interesting to see how many of you, who has smaller feet then myself, prefer wider boards. However, my binding angles are more 15/-15ish... 

@kimchi

I do not reckon that the same model in the same size but with a different width noticeable improve the float of the board. Of course, more board means more float, but it would be more significant if the size of the same board model is also increased, IMHO.

I need em' thick in the middle and loose in the back, float em like a waterbed poppin' fat pillow stacks


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Has anybody ever found a way to make EST bindings NOT slide down the channel 1-2mm/day?   

I have new hardware, new board, new bindings.  #3 philips and TIGHT. 

The hardware didnt' get loose at the end of the day,  but I can see that my stance widened 1-2 mm each day of riding.  

I know it's not the end of the world,  but it's annoying.  Help?


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Not impressed with Burton AK. Returning a Hover jacket with less than 30 days on it. 
I just picked up Trew Trewth bibs and they seem to be very well built and thought out. I’m 6’2” 185lbs and the Large fits perfect. 

I've been underwhelmed with my Freebirds. Around 60 days in them, few places of wear, couple tears I threw Tenancious tape over. That stuff's annoying but I'm big, I ride hard, and it's mostly cosmetic, so fine. But the seam tape on the interior is wearing out in multiple places. I should have sent them in for warranty last season, but held off because of COVID (everyone had bigger things to worry about in March) and kind of forgot about it until last month. I'd be pretty disappointed if I paid full price for them. The only reason I keep buying AK is because of the warranty, I can generally find it on discount, and the ice axe companies tend to have slimmer cuts on pants.

I'm bummed at the state of snowboarding outerwear. If you compare it to the high-end stuff from Arc'teryx and Patagonia, AK is no contest. IMO not even quite on par with the 2nd tier ice axe companies like Outdoor Research and Marmot. And AK is even the gold standard for snowboarding industry, at least they don't have little annoying issues like sticky zippers or random failing threads. I've blown up stuff from various snowboard companies (Holden, Bonfire, Sessions, and Homeschool at last count). I've been pretty unimpressed with the stuff I've handled from Quiksilver and Volcom. The 32 stuff is laughable.

I get it, the average snowboarder is sideslipping around and rides <5 days a year, but I wish they held themselves to a higher standard. At least at the high-end.

Rant over. Never seen it in person, but the Trew stuff looks well-priced and well-built. Kind of weak that their sale items are final sale and no warranty, though (at least on their website).


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Posted by: @ek9max

Has anybody ever found a way to make EST bindings NOT slide down the channel 1-2mm/day?   

I have new hardware, new board, new bindings.  #3 philips and TIGHT. 

The hardware didnt' get loose at the end of the day,  but I can see that my stance widened 1-2 mm each day of riding.  

I know it's not the end of the world,  but it's annoying.  Help?

Are you using the short Burton black screws?  On any channel board I always crank the bindings down, strap in and flex the board out and then re-tighten before heading out.


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I'm using the screws that came with my EST bindings.  So yes. 

 

And you dont' see your bindings move at all when you get home from the hill?  


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I haven't used EST bindings since probably 2013, but the flex-out and re-tightened method fixed any loosening issues I had at the time.  There used to be a "pro" est screw kit, I might have an unused set somewhere.. if I come across them I'll let you know


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Posted by: @kimchi
Posted by: @velvethammer

Not impressed with Burton AK. Returning a Hover jacket with less than 30 days on it. 
I just picked up Trew Trewth bibs and they seem to be very well built and thought out. I’m 6’2” 185lbs and the Large fits perfect. 

I've been underwhelmed with my Freebirds. Around 60 days in them, few places of wear, couple tears I threw Tenancious tape over. That stuff's annoying but I'm big, I ride hard, and it's mostly cosmetic, so fine. But the seam tape on the interior is wearing out in multiple places. I should have sent them in for warranty last season, but held off because of COVID (everyone had bigger things to worry about in March) and kind of forgot about it until last month. I'd be pretty disappointed if I paid full price for them. The only reason I keep buying AK is because of the warranty, I can generally find it on discount, and the ice axe companies tend to have slimmer cuts on pants.

I'm bummed at the state of snowboarding outerwear. If you compare it to the high-end stuff from Arc'teryx and Patagonia, AK is no contest. IMO not even quite on par with the 2nd tier ice axe companies like Outdoor Research and Marmot. And AK is even the gold standard for snowboarding industry, at least they don't have little annoying issues like sticky zippers or random failing threads. I've blown up stuff from various snowboard companies (Holden, Bonfire, Sessions, and Homeschool at last count). I've been pretty unimpressed with the stuff I've handled from Quiksilver and Volcom. The 32 stuff is laughable.

I get it, the average snowboarder is sideslipping around and rides <5 days a year, but I wish they held themselves to a higher standard. At least at the high-end.

Rant over. Never seen it in person, but the Trew stuff looks well-priced and well-built. Kind of weak that their sale items are final sale and no warranty, though (at least on their website).

Agree about snowboarding outerwear. I think they are trying to capture all body types with their sizing. Arcteryx says if you have a belly look somewhere else. I have a couple of their shells for hiking and they are the most form fitting jackets I have ever had. Surprised some fatty hasn’t had their feelings hurt trying on some of their gear.


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Posted by: @ek9max

Has anybody ever found a way to make EST bindings NOT slide down the channel 1-2mm/day?   

I have new hardware, new board, new bindings.  #3 philips and TIGHT. 

The hardware didnt' get loose at the end of the day,  but I can see that my stance widened 1-2 mm each day of riding.  

I know it's not the end of the world,  but it's annoying.  Help?

Mine dont move at all.  Even with new bindings, I usually use the old hardware.  If I use new hardware, I screw the two together before mounting my bindings.  I feel this helps to seat them better once I mount the bindings.


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I can't even believe this..... I have 3 new boards/bindings this year.  They all do this.  

I've had many burton boards and bindings over the years and they did it also.  I must be doing something wrong. 


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That would be awesome.  

 

I can't see myself getting my boots on/strapping in then re tightening.  That seems like a lot for a guy that gets out 60+ days. 


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i don't do it every time, just when i first mount a channel deck. i've got too many bindings so usually i'm only doing it once and then done haha


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