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@kimchi Pretty spot on with my sentiments of the Orbit, esp compared to Koruas. In terms of general feel between the two, at least. Orbit's a relatively more livelier charger, compared to any of the Koruas I've ever owned or ridden. But as you now also know, tail is stiff AF loll.

But like I've also mentioned before, gotten ~4 days on my 59 Pencil so far and love it a ton. Excited to get more days on it still, but def a strong contender to usurp the Orbit as my fave deck in the last little while. Right amount of stiffness I like (~7.5/10) esp when pushing it, but not planky feeling like the Stealth, or even the TFinder. Busts thru chunder great, and handles jumps pretty well, which is a must for me too. Waist width is also in my personal sweet spot, along with the sidecut and taper. Awesome board, to say the least.


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@gd I know you said the Stealth is too plankish for you, but air can't help shaking the feeling that's the one for me in the Korua line. Pencil 164 has too little edge for my tastes, Tranny Finder doesn't come bigger than a 157, and the Stealth seems like a reshaped TF. Even the CF 164 might be perfect if they had the 269 mm waist on it (but I expect Ill get used to the 278 mm). 


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@gd I know you said the Stealth is too plankish for you, but air can't help shaking the feeling that's the one for me in the Korua line. Pencil 164 has too little edge for my tastes, Tranny Finder doesn't come bigger than a 157, and the Stealth seems like a reshaped TF. Even the CF 164 might be perfect if they had the 269 mm waist on it (but I expect Ill get used to the 278 mm). 

Yeah, it felt the most like a "door" compared to all the others I've ridden from them. Took a while to break in compared to the above mentioned, also. Tbf, it's great on soft/perfect groomers, but so were all the other Koruas. Was a bit of a chore in choppy conditions, and really hard/icy conditions we get here.

I really wanted to like it, esp cos I'm a fan of the shape. And I believe one of the Korua dudes (Aaron Schwartz, I think?) was saying it's pretty much the T.Finder, with a notch tail. But yeah, my overall exp with it at my weight and setup, I just enjoyed the other Koruas much more. Maybe if it had the ww & feel of the 59 Pencil, I'd have kept it for longer perhaps 🤷🏻‍♂️. 


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@gd I know you said the Stealth is too plankish for you, but air can't help shaking the feeling that's the one for me in the Korua line. Pencil 164 has too little edge for my tastes, Tranny Finder doesn't come bigger than a 157, and the Stealth seems like a reshaped TF. Even the CF 164 might be perfect if they had the 269 mm waist on it (but I expect Ill get used to the 278 mm). 

You're correct. Stealth is just a TF with a reshaped, 1cm shorter tail. I'd suggest you get something from the Plus line, if the limited sizing fits. Rode the new TF+ 57 for a day in Japan blower last season, and it felt significantly better than the first year classic TF 54&57/Stealth/Apollo/Puzzle we owned. TBF the non-plus Pencil 159 also felt way better.

 


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@gd I know you said the Stealth is too plankish for you, but air can't help shaking the feeling that's the one for me in the Korua line. Pencil 164 has too little edge for my tastes, Tranny Finder doesn't come bigger than a 157, and the Stealth seems like a reshaped TF. Even the CF 164 might be perfect if they had the 269 mm waist on it (but I expect Ill get used to the 278 mm). 

You're correct. Stealth is just a TF with a reshaped, 1cm shorter tail. I'd suggest you get something from the Plus line, if the limited sizing fits. Rode the new TF+ 57 for a day in Japan blower last season, and it felt significantly better than the first year classic TF 54&57/Stealth/Apollo/Puzzle we owned. TBF the non-plus Pencil 159 also felt way better.

 

All the Plus boards are too small for me, unfortunately.

From what I hear (both in this thread and elsewhere), the new stuff is much better than the Year One stuff from the previous factory.

Stealth 63 might be the ticket for me. TF 160 or 163 would also work. We'll see how I feel about the Cafe Racer after a few more days on snow.


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Got out on my CR64 this weekend, as well. I am a big fan. I was on last-generation atlases, and with those and my size 13 feet, the waist width felt perfect. No issues with responsiveness. Edge hold was reliable on pretty firm conditions, and as we got several inches of snow throughout the morning and the groomers softened up a little bit I was also developing the confidence in the board to start pushing it more. A little bit of twitchiness at times into turns, but the CR is almost a full-cambered board and that twitchiness really just a reminder to drive it slightly more aggressively and intentionally into turns. It rolled easily from edge to edge as long as I was really being at least somewhat proactive. Like @kimchi noted, it isn't the type of board that really springs out of carves, but that's actually okay with me.

Flex on-snow felt pretty much mid-stiff, which I agree is slightly less aggressive than I would have guessed from the hand flex. The 7 flex rating felt accurate. I could press/butter/ollie without too much effort, but couldn't get all that much flex out of the tail or really lock into presses. My Korua Asytoni, which is seemingly essentially a Stealth with a weird asym extension on one half of the tail, rides much more aggressively in terms of the feel of the flex than does the Cafe Racer.

For my riding style, carved turns really worked best when I transferred increasingly onto my back foot through the second half of the turn - even more so than on my other boards that are my favorites to turn on, like my Super 8 and my Moss. So far, that has been my main impression of it's carving-specific-ness. It is a board that seems better designed to really "finish" a carved turn, whereas some of them feel like they start to lose that locked-in feeling towards the end of the arc. There are some similarities with my Moss in that feel, but the Korua seems to me to be even more available for that back foot-driven finish to the turning arc.

This may be in serious consideration as a daily driver alongside my Super 8. I really like it and want to see how it feels in different conditions. I plan to put a pair of current-year Forces on it, as I have liked those slightly more than my Atlases or Stratas lately. After one day on this thing, I think that it would already replace my Super 8 as a board that I would travel with.


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Yeah, I'd put the Pencil & the Cafe Racer as the ones I enjoyed most from them. Then the T.Finder+. And as some have mentioned before, they're not as damp as the OG line, but livelier and poppier for sure. Still remember overshooting an entire landing with it when I hit a rare jump in Japan (Kiroro) 😅.

But yeah, glad to hear the og Korua owners enjoying the newer ones now 💪🏼.


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Posted by: @matty

I was on last-generation atlases, and with those and my size 13 feet, the waist width felt perfect.

Definitely big difference between us-- I'm on size 10 boots, and in Adidas which are pretty reduced bootprint. Depending on how the next few days out on the CR go, I may actually start riding these with my splitboard boots (K2 Aspects 10.5). They're bulkier so I'm concerned about booting out on my "normal" boards, but that bulk might actually be useful for leveraging that fat waist.

Or I may just need more time on it. Hard to tell off of one day. I'm going to start out with stiffer bindings and play around with it from there.


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I was on last-generation atlases, and with those and my size 13 feet, the waist width felt perfect.

Definitely big difference between us-- I'm on size 10 boots, and in Adidas which are pretty reduced bootprint. Depending on how the next few days out on the CR go, I may actually start riding these with my splitboard boots (K2 Aspects 10.5). They're bulkier so I'm concerned about booting out on my "normal" boards, but that bulk might actually be useful for leveraging that fat waist.

Or I may just need more time on it. Hard to tell off of one day. I'm going to start out with stiffer bindings and play around with it from there.

Sizing up on the boots or the boot shell won’t help you to leverage it. It’s your foot size that drives it. With 9,5 US Tacticals the CR 64 feels wide only on a very firm groomer. Same if not even a bit more sluggish in my 10 US Tacticals I used to run before downsizing. The CR 59 is much easier to drive in these conditions but since the EE is not that long, neither of them is what I reach for for icy groomers anyway. The 64 is a blast to ride in softer snow or slush though. My Slush Slasher feels obsolate now (for slush carving, obviously a more playful board).

As far as the spring from the carves is concerned, these are for sure not the most springy carvers but they can still pop well. If you move your weight to the center again just before ending the carve, you access the tigher sidecut part again. This creates more G, thus more decambering and rebound.

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Got a couple fast groomer days on this CR56 this week. The longitudinal and torsional stiffness of the board paired pretty well with the Atlas bindings. Need to tweak the stance a bit though...angle up front begs to be opened up more from the current +24 and might go posi in the rear as well.

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angle up front begs to be opened up more from the current +24 and might go posi in the rear as well.

Not hating at all, but it's so interesting to me how much different people feel things differently.

On all my Koruas, Splitboard included, I run 18/-9 ~ 22" and they are carving machines. I will say I'm not trying to drag my armpits and have no desire to do so, but on the right slope I get down pretty damn low in the right spots.

Double possi just fucks me up in pow, trees and when it gets really steep. So fascinating to me how we all work/perceive the same thing so differently. 

 

 

 


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angle up front begs to be opened up more from the current +24 and might go posi in the rear as well.

Not hating at all, but it's so interesting to me how much different people feel things differently.

On all my Koruas, Splitboard included, I run 18/-9 ~ 22" and they are carving machines. I will say I'm not trying to drag my armpits and have no desire to do so, but on the right slope I get down pretty damn low in the right spots.

Double possi just fucks me up in pow, trees and when it gets really steep. So fascinating to me how we all work/perceive the same thing so differently. 

 

 

 

I'm not a fan of posi stance either, but I also realize it's mostly because I never run it...as a result, of course it feels awkward. Got this thing purely to fill the carver gap in my quiver, so in my mind it makes sense to set it up that way. It's never coming out on a pow day and is never going in the trees.

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Got a couple fast groomer days on this CR56 this week. The longitudinal and torsional stiffness of the board paired pretty well with the Atlas bindings. Need to tweak the stance a bit though...angle up front begs to be opened up more from the current +24 and might go posi in the rear as well.

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How do you find the flex on snow, compared to the other newer ones you've been on? And that 7.7m sidecut is the main thing making me hesitate, but still interested in adding one in the near future, possibly.


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angle up front begs to be opened up more from the current +24 and might go posi in the rear as well.

Not hating at all, but it's so interesting to me how much different people feel things differently.

On all my Koruas, Splitboard included, I run 18/-9 ~ 22" and they are carving machines. I will say I'm not trying to drag my armpits and have no desire to do so, but on the right slope I get down pretty damn low in the right spots.

Double possi just fucks me up in pow, trees and when it gets really steep. So fascinating to me how we all work/perceive the same thing so differently. 

 

 

 

I'm not a fan of posi stance either, but I also realize it's mostly because I never run it...as a result, of course it feels awkward. Got this thing purely to fill the carver gap in my quiver, so in my mind it makes sense to set it up that way. It's never coming out on a pow day and is never going in the trees.

So um… you guys know how each and every one of our bodies are different? Like, remarkably different. Biomechanically (not to mention biochemically). And how each of us have lived different lives and thus have different experiences, preferences, tastes, personalities? And you know how we all have different fitness levels? Strength, flexibility, haleness (non-injury/injury). Not to mention core technique, style, etc…

Diversity. Do what works for you to slide down the hill and have fun. Ideally, but not necessarily, with others.

Nerd aside: take the angle of your front binding minus the angle of your back binding (here, minus a negative is plus) and you get your stance "openness". Now, take the front minus the back (this time a double minus is a minus) divided by 2 (the average of two) and you get "orientation angle"

E.g.: I ride +27 - +3 = 24° open. (+27 - +3 )/2= +12° forward orientation

Someone who rides say +18 - -9 = 27° open and (+18 - -9)/2 = +4.5° forward orientation.

Pretty radically different! I bet I do not have the muscles, flexibility and coordination developed to ride a board with that stance. That's why if I tried a run with it I'd be like "uuggh wtf?" But gimme a few days on it (and a good reason to) and maybe I could though. And maybe not…

 


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Absolutely, everyone is different, but don’t forget the factor of what you are used to and what you have never tried.. and if you have tried it, how much time you didn’t give it and how quick the change was. I don’t mean anyone in particular, just a person in general. I didn’t switch to double posi overnight, it took me a couple seasons and one notch at a time back and forth. When you are used to something for so long, you can’t just try something new, not like it, call it quits and punch in the result. It takes small adjustments over a period of time. I am definitely not trying to say everyone should like any certain stance, I just think the above reasons lead to a widespread misunderstanding.

Thinking about riding a duck stance makes me cringe, but the same is true for many who like their duck stance, thinking about forward angles. No one seems to talk about body posture or style when this comes up. People who like duck are more square on the board, while people who like forward are more forward-open. If I try duck, it feels like shit because my body wants to be open toward the front. If a duck fan tries positive, it feels fucked up because their body is trying to stay square.

I also see a lot of folks who clearly have the posture that wants a mellow rear angle, but they are stuck on the idea of relatively symmetrical duck. Leads to a disconnect between legs and upper body, back leg, and knee and ankle look painful.


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