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Rocker? 

Ski industry did it first.. Shane McConkey

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Apex Ski Boots?

Ski industry first...

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implying that something is not possible because ski companies haven't done it yet is pretty damn naive

I'm far from naive. I worked in the industry for along time. 


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Rocker? 

Ski industry did it first.. Shane McConkey

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Apex Ski Boots?

Ski industry first...

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implying that something is not possible because ski companies haven't done it yet is pretty damn naive

I'm far from naive. I worked in the industry for along time. 

Trying something first, and making it successful are very different things.  If you've worked in the industry a long time, than you should know that just because someone else has not succeeded at something does not make it impossible to achieve.  Progression is literally the core of our sport.  To bring it back into context, I was the first to question this particular application of a non-stick top sheet, but I think it's rad they are experimenting and not just sitting back and following the trends of the ski industry because they've "been around longer and sell more gear"


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Posted by: @spacebird

but I think it's rad they are experimenting

Look, I love Korua.... But you're wrong they are not experimenting. As has been stated by more than just myself. It's been done before and it doesn't work. That's not an experiment. That's doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

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not just sitting back and following the trends of the ski industry

I never said to follow the trends of the ski industry. Or anything like that. I said the ski industry has tried it all, for the most part. Following the ski trends would be to do what they do. Which I never suggested. In fact I suggested the opposite, like when I linked to the coating ( and posted a video )  that nobody has tried yet. 

Let's agree you don't seem to have very good reading comprehension skills, and then agree to disagree on everything else and leave it at that... 

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Progression is literally the core of our sport.

I'm quite well aware of that, I've been snowboarding since 1986, there's a good chance ( or maybe not ) I've been around for a lot more of the progression than you. 


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The BC Ski industry has been around far longer than the Splitboard industry. They produce roughly 20-30x the amount of equipment than the Splitboard industry ( last time I saw SIA numbers so it could have changed ).

If there was a way to solve this issue, or it was as simple as a p-tex top sheet, the ski industry would have already done it.  

lol, sorry you took my response so personally.  If it makes you feel better we can blame it on my reading comprehension, but no amount of brags about how long you've been snowboarding will ever make me agree with your claim that "If there was a way to solve this issue the ski industry would have already done it." 

Is Koruas new top sheet the solution?  probably not, but that does not mean there is not a way to solve the issue now or ever in the future, just because the ski industry has not discovered or created it yet


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Posted by: @spacebird

sorry you took my response so personally

I didn't take it personally, I just think you have poor reading skills, don't know what you're talking about and are trying to enlighten me ( progression is literally the core of our sport ) on shit I already know, and like I said, have probably known for far longer than you.

Saying how old you are or how long you've been doing something isn't bragging, it's a statement of facts.

Once again, poor reading comprehension. 

I'm out on this and moving on. 

Hopefully you'll do the same. 


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Water will freeze to glass. It's going to freeze to anything that gets below the freezing temp. The only way to prevent it is that the surface of the board has to stay hot enough to melt whatever snow gets on it.

And if the Yes. Great Tits boards didn't do it... I don't think anything will. 


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Not sure I wanna say McConkey invented rocker, more like made it popular, but damn if it made an impact on the massproduced ski and snowboard market. 


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Stealth 63 rips. Feels like a wider, mellower US Orbit... something like a hybrid between the Orbit and the Cafe Racer, which is what I was more or less looking for. Think I'm most likely going to move the Cafe Racer (got a few folks lined up already lol).

Narrower width of the Stealth 63 feels way better in firm snow than CR 64. Today was a pretty good day to test that, Bachelor was mega wind scoured with lots of graupel. Waist is still wider than I'd prefer (wish it was 260-265 mm width) but 269 is a hell of lot a more manageable in firm conditions than 278.

Wasn't too difficult to ride. Didn't have any issues flexing it out of box. I think it'll break in nicely. Felt maybe a touch softer in the nose and a touch stiffer in the tail than the CR (they're both rated 7/10 by Korua), but that could just be in my head.

Didn't play with it much switch, but skeptical how it'll do. Pretty minimal tail kick and the mini swallow doesn't look the best for deflection, so I'm a a little sketch riding it backwards. Will probably wait for "friendlier" and more familiar conditions back in Tahoe before I test that too much lol.

I'm looking forward to getting her in pow. Played around with her in some left overs on the sides of runs and felt promising. Looks like I'll have maybe a foot and a half to play with by Sunday at Bachelor.


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Nice little video. One-stop shop for a lot of advice I randomly picked up from places or picked up via trial-and-error over the past 4 years of developing a more carve-y style. 

Not a ton of good "how to carve well" resources out there. Knapton's "How to Really Really Carve" YT series was the best resource I found and his videos tend to meander a good bit. 


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Stealth 63 rips. Feels like a wider, mellower US Orbit... something like a hybrid between the Orbit and the Cafe Racer, which is what I was more or less looking for. Think I'm most likely going to move the Cafe Racer (got a few folks lined up already lol).

Narrower width of the Stealth 63 feels way better in firm snow than CR 64. Today was a pretty good day to test that, Bachelor was mega wind scoured with lots of graupel. Waist is still wider than I'd prefer (wish it was 260-265 mm width) but 269 is a hell of lot a more manageable in firm conditions than 278.

Wasn't too difficult to ride. Didn't have any issues flexing it out of box. I think it'll break in nicely. Felt maybe a touch softer in the nose and a touch stiffer in the tail than the CR (they're both rated 7/10 by Korua), but that could just be in my head.

Didn't play with it much switch, but skeptical how it'll do. Pretty minimal tail kick and the mini swallow doesn't look the best for deflection, so I'm a a little sketch riding it backwards. Will probably wait for "friendlier" and more familiar conditions back in Tahoe before I test that too much lol.

I'm looking forward to getting her in pow. Played around with her in some left overs on the sides of runs and felt promising. Looks like I'll have maybe a foot and a half to play with by Sunday at Bachelor.

Took 4 mini laps today at Bachelor, only got about 3k vert. Resort shut it down because of winds and snow. 

Board is a lot to handle in tighter tree zone. Manageable but I need to stay on top of it. I think on days I expect to be in the trees a lot I'd grab my Moss Swallowtail... just easier to swing around.

But still mega fun. Ended up in a little wind-protected gully with some decent snow and was having a ball. I think this thing will be mega fun mobbing down an open alpine face.


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Posted by: @kimchi

Board is a lot to handle in tighter tree zone

Interesting.

Is it maybe the snow quality?

I took mine into my super tight stashes last week on a pow day (14” new ) and it seemed super nimble for its length. 

They way it performed was part of the reason I decided to keep it. 

Rode it today in left over 5” from yesterday and thought it did pretty well. 

When it got edgy in frozen crap snow it became a bit more to move around, all it required though was just dialing back the speed a bit and it was fine. 


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Board is a lot to handle in tighter tree zone

Interesting.

Is it maybe the snow quality?

I took mine into my super tight stashes last week on a pow day (14” new ) and it seemed super nimble for its length. 

They way it performed was part of the reason I decided to keep it. 

Rode it today in left over 5” from yesterday and thought it did pretty well. 

When it got edgy in frozen crap snow it became a bit more to move around, all it required though was just dialing back the speed a bit and it was fine. 

Maybe, conditions have been weird all week. I've riding a little tentative because I keep transitioning between little pow stashes and wind scoured death.

The TF157 you lent me definitely felt more nimble and I was more comfortable in tighter zones (although I'm more comfortable riding aspens than pines / firs because of better visibility).


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although I'm more comfortable riding aspens than pines / firs because of better visibility).

Yea, that’s the zone I was talking about, those stashes I took you in last year. 


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Falling in love with the Stealth. Got a proper pow day at Bachelor. Probably 2-3 ft of accumulation, significantly deeper in a few wind deposits I found. Blower snow, especially by west coast standards. Thing planes super well in low angle pow, better than I had anticipated. I cruised through a few flat spots I wasn't sure I'd be able to ride out. It doesn't float as well as my Dupraz D1 6' or Moss Swallow, but those are like... 10/10 boards for pow. Stealth was probably a 9 or 9.5.

Feeling more comfortable with it in trees. I think the hesitancy I mentioned in previous post was more about visibility and unfamiliar terrain than being able to commit to the turn. I'd still prefer the Moss in tight trees, but the Stealth holds its own.

Super forgiving too. I came down a few landings slightly squirrely and was able to power it out. US Orbit in those situations would definitely have put me on my ass.

Turns fun, but haven't got it on proper corduroy yet. Conditions have been weird all week. Expecting to have some fresh cord to lay out tomorrow.


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