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Thought Slash also was made by Nobile but could be wrong.

Think you can add Tur Snowboards to GP87 and Stranda are made in Portugal.

Hey nice thanks.

Regarding Slash, this post on Boardsport source is … ambiguous. He talks about how he loves Meditec, then mentions he's working with Nobile on new stuff. Not clear if he's jumped or he's just doing R&D with Nobile.

What's the factory in Portugal? Got a name? 🙂


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They’re the two that I’ve never even considered unloading. 

Was giving it some thought the other day... trying to rank the decks I’ve owned/ridden from the lineup:

Pencil64 - Dart60 - Pencil+64 - CaféRacer59 - Trenchdigger65 - CaféRacer+59 - Otto57 - TrannyFinder57 - Stealth63. 


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They are made by FreshLines but don’t know the name of the factory. 
Some of the Moonchild boards are made there as well 


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@bopuc2 That tree run is like a snowboarders wet dream, super jealous.  Good research on Korua, interesting.  I have three Koruas now, each of them arrived from Germany in about 4 days and cost about $500 US which includes the shipping so yeah, German (Japanese?) efficiency.  I'd have paid a lot more for any of these boards. 

Regarding build quality, mine appear to be solid, the Pencil is new to me but the others have been through 2 seasons and they both still look great, despite mashing them through our granite infested tree areas here in the northeast.  

I have a Cafe Racer as well but haven't bonded with that one for some reason, I'll probably end up selling it.  

But the Dart and Pencil are absolute gems, as @awd1105 says, these are keepers for sure.   

Where I am it's basically deep pow tree runs December through February. Sometimes I have to hike for them (like in the vid) and sometimes I lap the ropeway. But yeah that vid above was a special day. 2 runs of bliss.

Korua and Amplid (also German, built at Playmaker, Taiwan) both ship international using UPS Expedited. Got stuff from both here in rural Northern Japan this winter in 5 days (buddy got a Dart Split, I got a proto from Amplid). Very impressive.

My Pencil split just finished season 3 (aww I might take it out one more time) and aside top sheet scrapes from crampons (none too deep, just cosmetic) it still good as new. The Pencil + if it weren't for a core compression (my own damn fault, but Korua sent me the Split as a warranty replacement anyways!!!) is freakishly still like new. Both however are from the time before Korua started doing wrapped edges. But I don't really care. 🙂


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Posted by: @awd1105

They’re the two that I’ve never even considered unloading. 

Was giving it some thought the other day... trying to rank the decks I’ve owned/ridden from the lineup:

Pencil64 - Dart60 - Pencil+64 - CaféRacer59 - Trenchdigger65 - CaféRacer+59 - Otto57 - TrannyFinder57 - Stealth63. 

Appreciate this ranking! I've got the TF57, but been thinking I might add a new one next year, so good to hear opinions. I was thinking a + but everyone is really into the pencil 64 on here, but then its basically the same as the tf57 with a pointy nose and longer tail...

Any thoughts on why you like the pencil so much and not the tranny?

Edit: love the tf, although I sometimes wish it had a bit less taper for resort cruising so the new 21/22 shape piqued my interest

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@bopuc2

Nobile has a really good rep for flexibility with prototyping.


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Posted by: @awd1105

They’re the two that I’ve never even considered unloading. 

Was giving it some thought the other day... trying to rank the decks I’ve owned/ridden from the lineup:

Pencil64 - Dart60 - Pencil+64 - CaféRacer59 - Trenchdigger65 - CaféRacer+59 - Otto57 - TrannyFinder57 - Stealth63. 

Just for contrary opinion, I loved the TF 157 and Stealth 163. Stealth 163 is my current daily. Liked both significantly better than the Cafe Racer 164, which was less heavily cambered and felt significantly less poppy turn to turn and fuggin WIIIIDE. I haven't ridden a Pencil and based on the spec sheet I'm not especially interested in it but I'd ride one if opportunity popped up.


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Gotta try the Pencil asap @kimchi. Think you'll be pleasantly surprised how good and versatile it can be. 


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Posted by: @awd1105

They’re the two that I’ve never even considered unloading. 

Was giving it some thought the other day... trying to rank the decks I’ve owned/ridden from the lineup:

Pencil64 - Dart60 - Pencil+64 - CaféRacer59 - Trenchdigger65 - CaféRacer+59 - Otto57 - TrannyFinder57 - Stealth63. 

Just for contrary opinion, I loved the TF 157 and Stealth 163. Stealth 163 is my current daily. Liked both significantly better than the Cafe Racer 164, which was less heavily cambered and felt significantly less poppy turn to turn and fuggin WIIIIDE. I haven't ridden a Pencil and based on the spec sheet I'm not especially interested in it but I'd ride one if opportunity popped up.

That’s totally cool if you felt differently about those models; it’s not that I didn’t enjoy them, I just preferred the others. It seems that, subconsciously or coincidentally, I’m more inclined to dicknosed boards over shovels.

Could be a Freudian thing, I dunno. 

It might also have to do with how I compared board. For example, I rode the CR59 the same day as the Stealth63 and found myself enjoying the former. Similarly, I rode the TF57 on a day next to my LandLord 163, and the latter happens to be my favourite board of all time. Whatever the case, I’m totally open to giving those models a shot again if the opportunity came up. I might feel differently next time. 

... but yes. Pencil164. My next board purchase will likely be a replacement so I can ride it as both my rock board and my DD. 


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TF 57 and pencil 64 are the exact same board other than tip/tail tail, confirmed by korua… so why do you like those specs when it’s called a transition finder but not when it’s called a pencil? 😜


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TF 57 and pencil 64 are the exact same board other than tip/tail tail, confirmed by korua… so why do you like those specs when it’s called a transition finder but not when it’s called a pencil? 😜

You mean the other way around? And apart from, “I just do”? 

Pencil felt more stable, and it rides so well in deeper snow that I don’t really care to find out if the TF does the same. It’s obvious that the TF is more “versatile” because of its shape, but since I have very little desire to ride switch or spin, I’m happy with my dicknosed Pencil. 


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TF 57 and pencil 64 are the exact same board other than tip/tail tail, confirmed by korua… so why do you like those specs when it’s called a transition finder but not when it’s called a pencil? 😜

Ha, then Pencil is basically same board as the Stealth with a different nos/tail.

Honestly wouldn't buy a Pencil 164 for the same reason i wouldn't buy a TF 157... not quite enough effective edge for my preference. If they made a TF 160 or 163 while maintaining the 269 mm waist (or ideally bit narrower), I'd swap out of my Stealth for one. For same specs on a Pencil they'd probably need a 168+.


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I was replying to @kimchi, who said he loved the TF 57 but doesn’t like the specs of the pencil, which are the same as the TF. This, of course, assumes he was looking at the pencil 64. Just giving him shit..

for the record, I’d also go pencil between the two because the tips do make a difference in soft snow. I’m pro-dicknose!


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I'm ambivalent about dick nose haha. Fantastic for better planing in soft snow, but creates a lot of extra length and material in non-soft snow. My Dupraz 6' is the most extreme version of that (effective edge of a ~162-164, 178 cm overall length). Like I've said in the past, the US Cadet 162 doesn't have as much edge as I'd like before of that long scoop nose (rides more like a 157 or 158 IMO). That's a real asset in soft snow but a pretty major drawback on firm groomer days.


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Funny, here I was thinking the Orbit is the most cartoonishly dick-shaped board I have ever seen…

/me ducks


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