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Thanks dudes. Just trying to compare to current boards that I feel really comfortable on. My rear foot on my two main rides this year is just over 270, so that’s pretty comparable on the back foot. I feel like around the feet is where I notice width the most, hence asking. Still just wondering if I would want to go slightly wider. That aside, naturally, most of these decks really tickle my fancy.


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Pretty stoked I scooped a current TF54. I like the extra width.

By current, did you mean the newer one? Cos wouldn't the new changes (less taper, bigger sidecut) make the board slightly wider, esp in the rear foot? Kinda curious about the new TF54 because of the new specs, actually. 


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mmm, I was comparing a bit the board specs of the more common boards, the Dart, Pencil, the current TF and the next TF.

So, the Pencil 159 and Dart 152, share the same chassis (nose, tail, waist width, sidecut, taper), with the new Transition F 154 being very very close to those specs (1mm here an there, nothing major).

Interesting enough, the old TF 157, Dart 156 and Pencil 164 share the same chassis that, if you look at the Dart line, has the most taper (31mm).

The new Transition F 157 has some updated specs, less nose width, more tail width, and of course, less taper, more in the line with other korua boards (18/19/20mm).

Based on that, I suspect this new Transition F 157 could be the next chassis for the Dart 156 and Pencil 164, using logical reasoning.

Let's see how things evolve 🤓 


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Pretty stoked I scooped a current TF54. I like the extra width.

By current, did you mean the newer one? Cos wouldn't the new changes (less taper, bigger sidecut) make the board slightly wider, esp in the rear foot? Kinda curious about the new TF54 because of the new specs, actually. 

No not the newer one- I was meaning extra width in the nose- sorry for the confusion!


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New TF with less taper sounds perfect, so I may wait. If they also happened to apply that new body to the pencil, even better.


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the 157 tf is on the short list of 2 bords for me


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New or old shape?


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new one. i like less taper for a every day ride. im riding backwards alot and when it starts to get up to 30mm taper it feels bleh to carve switch


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Quick edit thru the mini-park at our local hill, during the final week of our season. Didn't ride park much this winter (only really had an ~2 month window of a season here, due to multiple lockdowns), so was nice to get some laps in at the tail end of it.

 

 

*The new TF54 really interesting me now, with the slightly adjusted specs/scr 😅


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Anyone with experience with bother the cafe racer 59 and the gentem giant mantaray? I'm curious if there's too much overlap between the two that's it's not worth having both in the quiver.

I'm asking because I've come across a GM at a really good price and I'm finding it hard to forget about it


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I am so god damn happy I bought this Escalator. It's just great. So fluid, smooth, nimble, fast, stable...everything I want in a board. Smooth is the best word for it to me. So far I've only had it in powder as it just keeps snowing and my stashes have been refilled every few days. Really wanting to get into some spring lines, but not necessarily mad about extended powder refreshes. Top sheet definitely needs waxed. It was fresh spring pow all weekend and that shit just caked up all day like normal. So happy to have replaced a board that wasn't doing it anymore with something so good.

Also got into a new gully last week that ended up being mellower than expected in the guts, but that made for some fun open cruising.

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Anyone with experience with bother the cafe racer 59 and the gentem giant mantaray? I'm curious if there's too much overlap between the two that's it's not worth having both in the quiver.

I'm asking because I've come across a GM at a really good price and I'm finding it hard to forget about it

Never rode the CR59, but spent time on the Puzzle and what ever the first year asym board was called.  I'm on a 156 Mantaray now and I love it.. gimmicky or not, the Gentem is the best board I've ridden in powder and is a blast on groomers too.  If I was debating between the two, Gemtem all day.


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Anyone with experience with bother the cafe racer 59 and the gentem giant mantaray? I'm curious if there's too much overlap between the two that's it's not worth having both in the quiver.

I'm asking because I've come across a GM at a really good price and I'm finding it hard to forget about it

Never rode the CR59, but spent time on the Puzzle and what ever the first year asym board was called.  I'm on a 156 Mantaray now and I love it.. gimmicky or not, the Gentem is the best board I've ridden in powder and is a blast on groomers too.  If I was debating between the two, Gemtem all day.

Ridden the TF57 and XY, which have basically the same plan shape.  The bend is not quite the same (TF is standard camrock, XY is sort of backseat camber – TF has more camber where there’s camber)  but the biggest difference is the flex and dampness.  TF is stiffer and damper.  Korua boards are like that to me.  XY has a more flex and nuance.  TF is great if you want to bomb and hold speed through turns and plow through shite. XY has a better feel when things or good and you want to finesse.

 

Also ridden the Giant Manta. Tighter sidecut gives it a very different turning characteristic to the above boards, and anything in the Korua line as far as I know. 

 


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Anyone with experience with bother the cafe racer 59 and the gentem giant mantaray? I'm curious if there's too much overlap between the two that's it's not worth having both in the quiver.

I'm asking because I've come across a GM at a really good price and I'm finding it hard to forget about it

Never rode the CR59, but spent time on the Puzzle and what ever the first year asym board was called.  I'm on a 156 Mantaray now and I love it.. gimmicky or not, the Gentem is the best board I've ridden in powder and is a blast on groomers too.  If I was debating between the two, Gemtem all day.

Ridden the TF57 and XY, which have basically the same plan shape.  The bend is not quite the same (TF is standard camrock, XY is sort of backseat camber – TF has more camber where there’s camber)  but the biggest difference is the flex and dampness.  TF is stiffer and damper.  Korua boards are like that to me.  XY has a more flex and nuance.  TF is great if you want to bomb and hold speed through turns and plow through shite. XY has a better feel when things or good and you want to finesse.

 

Also ridden the Giant Manta. Tighter sidecut gives it a very different turning characteristic to the above boards, and anything in the Korua line as far as I know. 

 

Thanks for the input guys! I might end up getting the GM after all


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Anyone with experience with bother the cafe racer 59 and the gentem giant mantaray? I'm curious if there's too much overlap between the two that's it's not worth having both in the quiver.

I'm asking because I've come across a GM at a really good price and I'm finding it hard to forget about it

Never rode the CR59, but spent time on the Puzzle and what ever the first year asym board was called.  I'm on a 156 Mantaray now and I love it.. gimmicky or not, the Gentem is the best board I've ridden in powder and is a blast on groomers too.  If I was debating between the two, Gemtem all day.

Ridden the TF57 and XY, which have basically the same plan shape.  The bend is not quite the same (TF is standard camrock, XY is sort of backseat camber – TF has more camber where there’s camber)  but the biggest difference is the flex and dampness.  TF is stiffer and damper.  Korua boards are like that to me.  XY has a more flex and nuance.  TF is great if you want to bomb and hold speed through turns and plow through shite. XY has a better feel when things or good and you want to finesse.

 

Also ridden the Giant Manta. Tighter sidecut gives it a very different turning characteristic to the above boards, and anything in the Korua line as far as I know. 

 

Thanks for the input guys! I might end up getting the GM after all

Thinking of selling my GM.  Love the board and was my DD for the last couple of seasons.  Still in pretty good shape - can get you some pics if interested when I am back out in Utah end of May.  I bought it from parker when it was basically new.  Was in good shape then with only a big scratch on the topsheet nose - I put some black vinyl over that.  

 

And I agree with what unsatisfied said - I have ridden the asym board, pencil a bunch and now have the TF57.  All of those Korua boards are more bomber and want to go straight GM definitely has more flex and I feel like it is more responsive to input and wants to turn more.

Really not overlap at all with the GM and Korua.

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