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06/01/2020 8:06 am  
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Also was on the Tourist X for the first time.  They are light (and not near as warm as my Ion leather which is usually good when touring).  I didn't notice huge difference in stride length with the articulated cuff but that should help with the issue I get with the Ion breaking down in that area when touring a lot from the stress from ankle flex.   I do like the flex of them.  Stiffer than the Ion leather (ive been on them probably 75 days so they are broken in quite a bit) but still not too stiff.  

Good to get a bit of feedback on the split specific boots out there.  I've been looking at these, 32 Jones, and Salomon S/labs.  The 32's weigh like anchors.

I'd also add to this that I did some side country hiking at JH last week and apparently there is a reinforced toe piece for kicking steps and it seemed to help a lot.


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06/01/2020 8:40 am  
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Ohh… you should try that Storm Chaser with the stance slammed all the way forward. I rode a whole season on one in constant deep pow (Japan…) and it wasn't until I stepped on the nose that the board filled with magic. YMMV I suppose but JJ himself replied to a comment about this agreeing.

really? what size were you on? That makes me a bit nervous considering I already feel like i could use a bit more nose. I've done that on a few boards and have noticed the difference, but personally I still prefer to be sort of slammed back. Especially when it's deep and not too steep. I'll probably give it a shot on the SC though just to see how it feels. 
I picked up some canted spark pucks yesterday and set them up, was able to get about 1/4" farther back - rubbing the touring bracket sliding a binding on but not obstructed, also was able to better center my bindings as my front foot on voile pucks was too far towards the heel edge.


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06/01/2020 6:25 pm  

I just rode the Storm Chaser according to the recommended stance and it was great.


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07/01/2020 3:44 pm  

Thought I posted this already. Got out to Andasite Peak north of Boreal for a quick tour on 12/28.

Only ~1k of vert, but it was a great first tour of the year. Only slight hiccup was I forgot my hard shell in the car so I wore my puffy... luckily the wind was light.

My heelside finish here is weak, but riding the pow field behind me was pretty sweet.

 

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Also forgot to mention, first day out on my Weston Backwoods Split. Only got in 1 quick run on it, but first impression is really positive. The textured topsheet sheds snow really nicely, which was great on the tour up. I didn't appreciate how much weight snow accumulation was adding until it wasn't there any more.

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08/01/2020 10:53 pm  
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Also was on the Tourist X for the first time.  They are light (and not near as warm as my Ion leather which is usually good when touring).  I didn't notice huge difference in stride length with the articulated cuff but that should help with the issue I get with the Ion breaking down in that area when touring a lot from the stress from ankle flex.   I do like the flex of them.  Stiffer than the Ion leather (ive been on them probably 75 days so they are broken in quite a bit) but still not too stiff.  

Good to get a bit of feedback on the split specific boots out there.  I've been looking at these, 32 Jones, and Salomon S/labs.  The 32's weigh like anchors.

I'd also add to this that I did some side country hiking at JH last week and apparently there is a reinforced toe piece for kicking steps and it seemed to help a lot.

I only have the regular Tourist, not the X version, but I think the reinforced toe is the same. It was one of the reasons I got this boot. In my experience, kicking steps works until you get into hard snow, then I'd much rather follow (given the established track fits me reasonably)


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09/01/2020 11:39 pm  

https://www.gnu.com/gorp-split

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09/01/2020 11:55 pm  

Ooh, a Gnu Brd with a ... sintered base? 15mm taper, C3, the specs are almost identical. That would be a nice all around split for the terrain I ride. Hmm, I'll get a split when I move to the mountains (sometimes lots of snow after lifts close), but alas, spring is also the time when I need to return to reality.


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14/01/2020 6:44 am  
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I got on the Promise Land yesterday for the first time.  Just some inbounds touring early morning.  It performs as expected on the way up with the camber...no probs at all on steeper inclines.  As soon as I started down I knew this board was great.  On hardback it really effortlessly rails turns, the sidecut, taper and s rocker work together great to make the flow of turns really nice.  Can't wait to get it in pow, no doubt it will perform great with the profile and fish tail.  If they made this in a solid I'd buy it now.

I didn't mind the plastic voile pucks.  Worked great with my spark bindings.  The stance adjustment tool was super easy to use.  I will say I couldn't get my front foot quite to the angle I like.

Also was on the Tourist X for the first time.  They are light (and not near as warm as my Ion leather which is usually good when touring).  I didn't notice huge difference in stride length with the articulated cuff but that should help with the issue I get with the Ion breaking down in that area when touring a lot from the stress from ankle flex.   I do like the flex of them.  Stiffer than the Ion leather (ive been on them probably 75 days so they are broken in quite a bit) but still not too stiff.  

 

Super keen to hear more about the Promise Land, especially about the downhill aspect. How does it compare to your Solution or some of your solids like the the Giant Manta (probably not so much the Chaser) or the Koruas?

I have a Carbon Solution 161 and love it for serious steeps and charging, but want something less burly and more floaty and playful for touring in relatively mellow terrain like Japan (no ice axes need for Youtei, Niseko back bowls, Asahidake etc.). Default option would be a Hovercraft/Ultracraft split, but something more turn-y and tree-friendly would be nice, as long as it does not lose too much float. But I still want a true pow freeride board, not  something as soft and watered down as the One Hitter.

 

So actually took it out last week in LCC with about a foot of fresh light pow with substantially more in the trees.   Didn't do anything really steep but some good pitch and also some trees so I got a good feel for the board over all.

 I was really impressed by this board on the way up and for whatever reason I think it felt a little more grippy than my solution but that could also be because I had new skins.

As for the ride down, it rode as expected.  Really effortless float with the taper and fish tail whereas with my solution I would have to work pretty hard to keep the nose up in deeper snow.  I really liked the flow of the turns.

I don't think it will be as good as the solution in steeps, but I think it will be able to hold its own.   

 

 I am not sure exactly what the side cut is but it feels like it is probably in the sevens. Not too turny but maneuverable enough in some pretty tight trees.

As for a comparison,   I'd prob say closest ride in pow is my manta. But the PL is quicker as it doesn't have as much ww.  I think it will float you in deep.  Im 185.

Thanks for the info. How about the flex? Is it really as soft as the Backcountry description seems to suggest (6/10 - slightly softer than a Hometown Hero and only slightly stiffer than a Custom Camber) and is that noticeable in more challenging (gnarly LOL) terrain? Cheers!


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15/01/2020 9:06 pm  

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This past Monday I rode my Weston Backwoods about an hour-and-half inbounds in a couple feet of pow at Brighton. I needed to catch a flight and ripping my Hitchhikers off the pucks was the easiest way to pack the board quickly.

I really enjoyed it. Hit a few 5-10 foot drops and it felt great. Floated fantastic, no issues at 210 lbs on the 163 (although I wasn't wearing my pack + gear). Nice slashing turn feel, but still felt solid enough to take some gnarlier lines. Turned really quickly and didn't feel uncomfortable at all in some relatively tight trees. Really glad I ditched my Rome Whiteroom, not so much because I was unhappy with the Whiteroom, but because I'm really happy with the Backwoods.

Glad I rode it inbounds to dial things out. Also realized riding I need to tweak the stance a little bit- I went double posi at +24 / +3, gonna move it to +27 / -3.

All that said, I could definitely feel the limitations of being on a split. Any time I was on edge and hit the underlying base, the lack of torsional stiffness was abundantly obvious. And the all-aluminum frame of the Hitchhikers took a lot of comfort out of landings compared to my NOWs. I was thinking about picking up solid board pucks for my Sparks / Hitchhikers to avoid taking multiple bindings, but I don't think I'd enjoy riding them inbounds. They're great for their specific dual purpose, but their limitations and compromises were really clear after 3 days of riding similar conditions on solids.


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16/01/2020 9:28 am  

@kimchi

you need the padding for the base, makes a huge difference


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16/01/2020 12:19 pm  

nothing special quickie of a ~2k vert run from last week. I felt really off on this one. Struggled to focus on everything I needed to, struggled to flow through my line well, and the negative temps with high winds made it so cold I didn't tighten my boots before dropping. Loose ass boots do not make for precise, controlled turns. Especially on a mega wide board. At least the snow was killer and the slope was enough to get moving pretty good. Storm Chaser is a twitchy little missile. Definitely want to get back up there on the Landlord, maybe in a few days.

 


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16/01/2020 4:19 pm  

Nice! That looked super fun and smooth; buttery flow. Board looks cool. Are you just riding with your poles in hand because they don’t fit in your pack?

As much as I love varied/steeper terrain and whatnot, big open fields weaving through trees is always going to be one of the best feelings. This is probably my best gopro clip of that nature, couple years ago at Hoodoo, following @qurph

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16/01/2020 6:09 pm  

Both these above are awesome 👍 👍 


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17/01/2020 9:03 am  
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Nice! That looked super fun and smooth; buttery flow. Board looks cool. Are you just riding with your poles in hand because they don’t fit in your pack?

As much as I love varied/steeper terrain and whatnot, big open fields weaving through trees is always going to be one of the best feelings.

thanks, regardless of how shit everything felt it was still a killer day. Hard to ever be mad about exploring new zones on foot and having overall success on a line I've had eyes on for some time now. Typically only ride with poles in hand if I absolutely know I'm gonna have to push myself either back to the skin track for a skin out, back to a more rideable part of the exit, or if it's a long one with multiple flatter sections to get across. They are definitely a distraction while riding though - especially trees.

Hard to disagree with that. There's nothing like ripping through nicely spaced trees with lots of options. Avy paths like these are interesting too since there are tons of baby trees scattered throughout, so you think you see a nice clearing around some bigger trees to make a big turn then BAM little fuckers are snatching your ankles. That clip from Hoodoo is awesome. In bounds runs like that are a gift, especially when it seems like you're the only ones there to lap it all day


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17/01/2020 10:26 am  
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Nice! That looked super fun and smooth; buttery flow. Board looks cool. Are you just riding with your poles in hand because they don’t fit in your pack?

As much as I love varied/steeper terrain and whatnot, big open fields weaving through trees is always going to be one of the best feelings.

thanks, regardless of how shit everything felt it was still a killer day. Hard to ever be mad about exploring new zones on foot and having overall success on a line I've had eyes on for some time now. Typically only ride with poles in hand if I absolutely know I'm gonna have to push myself either back to the skin track for a skin out, back to a more rideable part of the exit, or if it's a long one with multiple flatter sections to get across. They are definitely a distraction while riding though - especially trees.

Hard to disagree with that. There's nothing like ripping through nicely spaced trees with lots of options. Avy paths like these are interesting too since there are tons of baby trees scattered throughout, so you think you see a nice clearing around some bigger trees to make a big turn then BAM little fuckers are snatching your ankles. That clip from Hoodoo is awesome. In bounds runs like that are a gift, especially when it seems like you're the only ones there to lap it all day

Are you splitting w/o a pack?

I use a nano biner to clip my poles to my pack (through the wrist strap) and then typically tuck under a compression strap to keep secure. 

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