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So after just one day on the Fixie Clips, I can say I’m super stoked on them. They are solid, hold the board incredibly well, and the ease of use is stupid. 

A big two snaps for sure..

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So I traded a old Burton Cruizer for a brand new Nitro of my choice but since I got a shitload of boards and nothing really in Nitros line for this season is exiting Im thinking about getting a spilt but I never have done it before. So should I get a split and if I do which one from Nitro?


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So I traded a old Burton Cruizer for a brand new Nitro of my choice but since I got a shitload of boards and nothing really in Nitros line for this season is exiting Im thinking about getting a spilt but I never have done it before. So should I get a split and if I do which one from Nitro?

Get the Doppelgänger. It's the best of what they have for sure.

If you have access to any terrain close by I say do it. 

But, I'm biased, I'd rather split for one pow run any day than go ride groomers.... 

Do remember, lots of other things to get... Bindings, transceiver, pack, etc, etc...


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Depends on the type of board and riding you prefer. Forget the nomad unless you are a diehard twin fan, so what’s left is the doppelgänger and squash. Squash is going to be better in pow and a little more freeride, limited switch efficiency, but I doubt most people are doing that on a split anyway. Also true camber, and I would venture to say it will be slightly stronger on hard snow and any groomers, unless you aren’t typically into camber. Plus the crud-buster nose.

Doppelgänger is the modern “all mountain” board, a little directional, slight taper, floats pretty well, but truly versatile. It will be virtually just as capable overall, less of a “powder shape,” but really not too dissimilar spec-wise . True all terrain/riding style tool.

Short version… if you always like a directional board with a focus on freeride and soft snow float, squash. If you aren’t sure, and tend to like a true all-terrain shape, doppelgänger. They will both perform well on hard snow. The true directionality of each is relatively similar, but the squash nose & tail kicks are largely what makes it seem different, and also why it will float better. It’s not really that directional otherwise.


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Posted by: @unsuspected

So I traded a old Burton Cruizer for a brand new Nitro of my choice but since I got a shitload of boards and nothing really in Nitros line for this season is exiting Im thinking about getting a spilt but I never have done it before. So should I get a split and if I do which one from Nitro?

Depends. If you don't like the ascent and the descent, splitting isn't worth the money, the effort, or the risk. If you enjoy hiking and can embrace the suck, splitting is awesome. If you hate hiking and just want to rack up vert and make turns, less so.


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Rough cutting for slightly thicker EVA padding on my sparks. Have the spark kit on there now which is fairly thin, and this is about twice as thick; more like traditional bindings. Prepared to take it off and go back to the thinner spark padding if it doesn’t feel right, but I’ve been wanting to try this for a while. No complaints as-is, but it’s a cheap test. It’ll extend over the toe clip, which is just a hair higher than the baseplate, so might act as a slight toe ramp. The foam I’m using is a similar durometer to a standard binding.

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Posted by: @kimchi
Posted by: @unsuspected

So I traded a old Burton Cruizer for a brand new Nitro of my choice but since I got a shitload of boards and nothing really in Nitros line for this season is exiting Im thinking about getting a spilt but I never have done it before. So should I get a split and if I do which one from Nitro?

Depends. If you don't like the ascent and the descent, splitting isn't worth the money, the effort, or the risk. If you enjoy hiking and can embrace the suck, splitting is awesome. If you hate hiking and just want to rack up vert and make turns, less so.

Oh. I was thinking along these lines yesterday as I was thinking about how my wispy little hopes and dreams were to pick up an optisplitstic after season on a bit of a sale, and well, the Covid BC rush seems to have upended that idea with everyone buying up gear. 

But then I got to wondering how much of this gear will end up being offloaded end of season as they try it and realize they're not into the endeavor of planning and putting in half a days labor climbing with gear... just to get a run in. 

Getting out in the BC takes way more effort and people are, ya know, lazy. So. We'll see.


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So I traded a old Burton Cruizer for a brand new Nitro of my choice but since I got a shitload of boards and nothing really in Nitros line for this season is exiting Im thinking about getting a spilt but I never have done it before. So should I get a split and if I do which one from Nitro?

Depends. If you don't like the ascent and the descent, splitting isn't worth the money, the effort, or the risk. If you enjoy hiking and can embrace the suck, splitting is awesome. If you hate hiking and just want to rack up vert and make turns, less so.

Oh. I was thinking along these lines yesterday as I was thinking about how my wispy little hopes and dreams were to pick up an optisplitstic after season on a bit of a sale, and well, the Covid BC rush seems to have upended that idea with everyone buying up gear. 

But then I got to wondering how much of this gear will end up being offloaded end of season as they try it and realize they're not into the endeavor of planning and putting in half a days labor climbing with gear... just to get a run in. 

Getting out in the BC takes way more effort and people are, ya know, lazy. So. We'll see.

Yep. 100% agreed. People are soft and expectations =! reality. Most people do not want to burn 4000 calories a day to ride 3k of vert. I'm expecting a lot of lightly used touring gear hitting the market once things are reasonably back to normal COVID-wise.


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anyone use their Karakorams on a non-split with the Prime Quiver-Connectors? worth it?


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anyone use their Karakorams on a non-split with the Prime Quiver-Connectors? worth it?

Funny, just took out my Prime Connect R for first time and was just about to update this thread.

I haven't toured in them yet. This was my first day on them in any condition. They were ok. They reminded me of some Ride Delta Mvmts I rode like 10 years ago. Super rigid feel under foot. Not a big fan personally but I like composite plastic basetrays... if you like aluminum bindings, they might be your jam. They felt more normal than my Sparks, but I could still tell they weren't a normal binding. They also don't appear to have any highback rotation.

Lots of little annoyances with them. They have some specialized parts. For example the Quiver Connector screws are 4 mm hex key screws instead of #3 Phillips Head. Ok weird, but 4 mm hex is a pretty standard snowboarding bit so fine. But the ankle and toe strap screws are 3 mm hex which are unusual... I'd need to go out of my way to make sure I have a 3 mm allen key on me.

Overall they were workable, but I prefer my NOW Drives by a lot. I was hoping to turn these into a hybrid resort / touring trip binding... but I'd rather just deal with traveling with 2 sets of bindings than ride these inbounds. The Quiver Connector quick swap feature is neat but not worth the price of admission IMO. I put NOW Tool-less Kingpins on my boards so I can pretty easily swap out a board. Not nearly as convenient as KK's "drop on changeovers" but it's quicker than working screwdrivers-- and let's be real, working a screw driver isn't that hard if it comes to that.

We'll see on the split front. I probably won't tour until January at the earliest. Maybe I'll like the feeling of "active joining technology" enough to sell my Sparks. If not... and I have both solid and split binding options I like better, these don't really have a place in the quiver.


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@spenser Nice. I just put on the Spark ones on mine but am curious to try something thicker too. Do you happen to have the "durometer" numbers on hand? Being in Japan I feel like it's something I can prolly find if I know exactly what to ask for. 🙂 TIA

 


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Came from eBay, seller listed it as A 70-80 shore

I’m familiar with durometer in regards to skateboard wheels, but didn’t know what to expect with EVA. The other option I found was 30 shore if I remember correctly... went with the stiffer option and glad I did. Like I said, it feels pretty similar to a standard binding


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Took a split lap today after the last two weeks of insane weather… three tropical storms and a hurricane hit the gulf of AK all at once, which brought warm temps and ridiculous amounts of rain, leading to landslides and avalanches combined. Juneau was mostly undamaged but had some flooding, which is unheard of. Haines got hit pretty hard and suffered some tragic losses, and is still in bad shape with people displaced, damaged infrastructure, etc

Less important but luckily regarding snow, we had a good early snow pack, and it survived well enough that we just need a couple little dumps to be good to go, and forecast looks good.

Was going to share a couple quick thoughts on things that are new to me this season. Picked up phantom hercules hooks late this spring which I only got to use twice at the time, as well as kohla skins (union branded)

I first set the hooks so they were nice and tight and I could still separate/put together, but found recently that in winter conditions, it was a little difficult to transition either direction. I loosened the mounting screws and backed out the adjustment screw a small amount (3/4 to 1 turn)… now they feel just as tight with the board together, and are snug going on and off, but no issues doing so “in the field.” I love the way you set the adjustment, which can’t move, and they feel just as secure as any other clip I have used, but without any extra/unnecessary function. Low profile and stronger design, too. I bent ultra clips when sliding a binding on, which is a joke. I’ve still got my other various clips but will be sticking to this passive design until further notice.

Not much to say about the skins other than I really like the balance of glide vs grip. Slightly more glide than the G3 high traction I had before, slightly less grip, but not enough to make any sort of difference for me.. I only know this because I focused on it for the comparison. Otherwise probably wouldn’t think about it. The glue sticks well, releases easy, love having the bar on the nose again, and the tail clips have yet to come off the weird squash “ski mode” shape. I think my setup is the most dialed it’s ever been.. will update once I’ve tried the thicker padding as mentioned above.

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5'10-11  180 lbs, 158cm or 161 splitboard K2 Marauder wide.

 

Probably doesn't matter much but want to hear your opinion.


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I’m pretty much the exact same size and I’d go for the larger one for a split, looks like a relatively traditionally sized board


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