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On the blunted nose, I normally prefer a milder version, but obviously this one is pretty straight across. The funny thing about it is it’s (IMO) mostly an aesthetic unless you are in truly deep multiple feet of Japan blower, where it might help keep the spray out of your face, as Korua loves to say. You could add a continued pointy tip to the exact same board and feel like it rides different, but of course it’s the same thing. It has a really nice nose profile and contact point blend that will do very well


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I feel like we could use a whole thread on just "keep the spray out of your face"… 😀

(this is not a dig at @spencer! just thinking out loud! 🙂

 

As someone who is not into "face shots" (Hi I like to see where I am going thank you), who rides exclusively deep Japanese powder, owns/rides pointy nose, blunt nose and round nose boards… and pretty much never get spray in my face I'm prepared to say it that it seems to me that it has less to do with board shape and more to do with riding style…

Perhaps separate but watch Japanese "powsurfing" videos (Gentem, Moss, etc…) and the Japanese riders *never* slash, never get spray in their face, and other than when they want to boost a rooster, barely even get a spray going. Seems to be much more about "a fluid line through the landscape" than "trashing nature" (as westerners seem so intent on…). Different values, different actions/behaviors.


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Yeah, I’ve never had “spray in the face” when just riding and turning as far as I remember, only happens during a purposeful slash. I could see it working (maybe) in truly deep, dry powder, as the elongated nose point might direct it further away, rather than the potential of coming over the top like a blunt nose, but who knows. Boat hulls are often designed to direct spray out to the sides more efficiently, but of course we are talking about snowboards. Our snow is typically far from light enough for any of that to be a possibility anyway.


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Posted by: @spenser

Yeah, I’ve never had “spray in the face” when just riding and turning as far as I remember, only happens during a purposeful slash. I could see it working (maybe) in truly deep, dry powder, as the elongated nose point might direct it further away, rather than the potential of coming over the top like a blunt nose, but who knows. Boat hulls are often designed to direct spray out to the sides more efficiently, but of course we are talking about snowboards. Our snow is typically far from light enough for any of that to be a possibility anyway.

I wouldn't expect it in most North American snow to spray that way, particularly not coastal snow... maybe Utah. The only "HOLY CRAP I CAN'T SEE" moments I've ever had were in Japan... maybe once or twice in Tahoe on the absolute lightest of snow days. Sierra snow is generally dense enough that it settles pretty quickly once it hits the air, would expect the same in vast majority of days up and down the west coast.


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I've been fortunate enough to ride "blower" pow in Japan, Italy, Canada, and multiple spots in the lower 48. I understand light, deep snow to be more common where the colder temperatures that produce less-dense crystal structures in the snow are similarly more common, but I believe that it happens all over the place.

The deepest, lightest snow that I have personally encountered was actually a few years ago in Washington State, when it snowed 10 feet in six days, shutting down the passes and ski areas in the week leading up to Christmas. When my local reopened on Christmas Day, it was so deep that it was basically unrideable. That weather system was also remarkably colder than what we normally see here, so the snow was super light. I charged off of the edge of a groomer at speed and only made it about thirty feet before I dropped over a roller and was instantly submerged up over my head in my own bomb hole. It took me about fifteen or twenty minutes to unstrap and climb those thirtyish feet back up to the groomer.

In actually rideable conditions, I have not noticed a significant difference in spray from the nose of my pow boards whether the shape is blunt (Korua Asytoni) or pointy (Moss Swallowtail). Instead, I have noticed that my less-directional boards generate both less float and more spray over the nose than do my super-directional pow boards.


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Posted by: @spenser

Yeah, I’ve never had “spray in the face” when just riding and turning as far as I remember, only happens during a purposeful slash. I could see it working (maybe) in truly deep, dry powder, as the elongated nose point might direct it further away, rather than the potential of coming over the top like a blunt nose, but who knows. Boat hulls are often designed to direct spray out to the sides more efficiently, but of course we are talking about snowboards. Our snow is typically far from light enough for any of that to be a possibility anyway.

Yeah, our snow is definitely heavier than that most of the time.  


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Never thought I'd be on a US (for some reason), but a couple shops up here in Canada still have 2020 stock on sale. The Horizon has piqued my interest.


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I kinda felt what @nmb said about the Horizon feeling dead torsionally, but I’d like to take it down a few real runs before I make a final judgment. 

only took it up the rope at Wild Mtn about 4 times on opening day, riding on wet concrete snow. 


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I felt like the horizon is kindve a dud unless you ride it short, the voyager on the other hand is a fuckin blast


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Yeah when I was searching around EL I saw your comment about it. The park suitable advertising lured me in but the spec seems a bit too wide for my taste. A 147 would be fun, but I don't have money to blow on a dick around board.

There's actually a 2020 Voyager up here on sale and a 2019 (love that graphic, but they're asking too much for old stock). There's also a sleek 2020 Cadet, but it's a 56 and I feel the 52.5 more. Can't decide what I really want out of my next board purchase, but I'll do some more searching.


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Probably going to get a scrappy early-season run on the cadet 62 relatively soon, maybe over the weekend.


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Just got my first lap on my Orbit 157, waiting in lift line. This thing RAILS. Holy crap. Put it on its heel edge for first turn of the year and fell right on my ass. Tail seems pretty stiff. Initial impression is very positive. 


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Just got my first lap on my Orbit 157, waiting in lift line. This thing RAILS. Holy crap. Put it on its heel edge for first turn of the year and fell right on my ass. Tail seems pretty stiff. Initial impression is very positive. 

Loll, yeah pleasantly surprised me, too. Esp once I got my setup dialed for it.

And I had my back foot at it's closest inserts (to centre), so tail didn't feel as burly to me compared to having it a bit further back. I normally ride all of my boards at those inserts for the back foot, tho.

But yeah, enjoy man. She is a total ripper; surprisingly poppy and fun in the air, too, esp once broken in.


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I’ll be on mine again soon! It’s plenty of board but I’d probably still take a 160 for fun

Enjoying the cadet, its definitely ridden so probably a little broken in, but pretty normal mid flex. Stiff enough in the size for my taste, but could see wanting more during the season. No groomers yet to nitpick the sidecut temperament, hah.

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I think orbit is the first board I'm gonna take with me once the resort opens. I've been digging the covert split.


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