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I put the Orbit away after 3 runs. It is a powerful board, my legs couldn't handle it any more after that. Still have off-season legs and sea level lungs, curious how I'll feel in a month.

@GD thanks for that. I will try moving up a set of inserts. The tail feels BURLY, having trouble getting much pop out of it, but maybe my off-season legs just can't handle it.

@spenser I don't think Cadet won't be enough board for you mid-season. Orbit is obviously much, much burlier. The Orbit I can see bucking me because I can't hold the line... when I eat it on the Cadet it's because I folded the nose.

A hybrid between an Orbit (loooong effective edge, burly nose) and a Cadet (stiff-ish but not overpowering tail, about a cm of taper) with an overall flex in the middle would be basically my perfect board.


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That’s why I think it’ll be less than I prefer, although not a bad thing - the orbit is right where I like it, cadet is definitely milder. It’s fun and easy going for me, great for the first few days and chill-er days in general. I like battering rams!


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Posted by: @parker

I think orbit is the first board I'm gonna take with me once the resort opens. I've been digging the covert split.

What are you down to now Parker? 220-230?


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Posted by: @kimchi

I put the Orbit away after 3 runs. It is a powerful board, my legs couldn't handle it any more after that. Still have off-season legs and sea level lungs, curious how I'll feel in a month.

@GD thanks for that. I will try moving up a set of inserts. The tail feels BURLY, having trouble getting much pop out of it, but maybe my off-season legs just can't handle it.

@spenser I don't think Cadet won't be enough board for you mid-season. Orbit is obviously much, much burlier. The Orbit I can see bucking me because I can't hold the line... when I eat it on the Cadet it's because I folded the nose.

A hybrid between an Orbit (loooong effective edge, burly nose) and a Cadet (stiff-ish but not overpowering tail, about a cm of taper) with an overall flex in the middle would be basically my perfect board.

No worries, dude. But yeah, the tail felt a bit more manageable/enjoyable when I had the back foot at my usual placement (most inner slots), vs trying it on reference. And as mentioned earlier, I ride all my boards with the back foot on the most inward inserts; to get as much tail as possible (esp with all my boards being directional). Mainly cos I always hit jumps & sidehits every time I ride. Plus, we don't get many deep pow days here anyway, so don't really feel as inclined to try my stance further back.

To add, my stance generally isn't very wide (~20.5") and I'm not as tall as you (5'7) so hopefully the inserts adjustment can work with your preferred stance width. But yeah, lmk how it goes, or if it helps any.

And lol, they actually made the Orbit feel burlier the year after that model. Well, my 54 Orbit certainly feels that way, at least. Feels more Korua-esque in build, compared to the 2019 one you and Spenser now have. Which was a little disappointing for me tbh, cos I really wanted that same feel of the 2019 model, on the 2020 one for the 54.


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Are you on the furthest-up rear inserts on most boards due to narrow stance, or are you purposely setting forward overall?

I’m at 22” and using one pack back from ref on the orbit (it seems more square between contact area to me, this makes it feel a little more typical freeride/pow) and ref on the cadet. Initially set that back a little too, but turns out I like it stock


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I think orbit is the first board I'm gonna take with me once the resort opens. I've been digging the covert split.

What are you down to now Parker? 220-230?

If you're talking about my weight? I was 218lbs on the scale this morn. I was 250-265lbs the last couple seasons.


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Took some more laps on the Orbit today. Less fatigued for sure. Definitely not a relaxing ride, but looks like I'll be fine once I'm in mid-season shape. 

Just absolutely rails. So much fun setting an edge at speed. Maybe that 8+ m sidecut thing is all in my head, but feels like I loooove boards that fall in the 8-8.7 m range and can't quite get down with anything in the 7.8 and below range. At least for drawn out carves. 

Still having trouble getting this thing to pop, though. Even on a basic tail press I have to PRESS just to get a few inches of lift in the nose. I got it used, so I'm not sure how much more it'll break in. Was hoping to make it my daily driver, but we'll see. 

I want to move up the bindings per @gd's recommendation, but I don't have adjustable heelcups and need disc perpendicular to board to center boots. id have to move the entire stances up a set of inserts, which gets me negative setback. Might either experiment with that or try my Karakoram Prime Connect Rs on it. Sucks because the NOW Drives are a perfect fit on this thing. 


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Are you on the furthest-up rear inserts on most boards due to narrow stance, or are you purposely setting forward overall?

Maybe a bit of both? For better context, usually have my front foot at the inserts just after reference (slots just before most inner inserts for the front foot). That's where I feel most comf with regards to my stance, and feeling centered on sidecut. And again, prefer more tail on these directional boards cos I like to jump a lot, also.

And on the same page with you on the sidecut preferences, @kimchi. Don't enjoy the feeling of anything less than ~7.8m overall for sidecuts. And loll, guess you prefer decks with a little more energy in the tail, eh? But yeah, def share once you're able to experiment with the stances on it. Curious to hear what you end up preferring.


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I think I'm going to let it ride for now. Maybe throw the Karakorams on there next trip. I spoke to the guy who sold it to me, it was only ridden like 5 times and he's significantly smaller than me. So this board probably still has some significant breaking in to do. I usually find a board I like and it breaks in too soft after about 10-15 days, maybe I'll finally have a board I think is a bit too stiff and settles into the sweet spot haha. 


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@GD what bindings are you running? do you think it prefers a pretty stiff binding?


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@GD what bindings are you running? do you think it prefers a pretty stiff binding?

Was using my modded B binders (newer Cartel baseplate and/or GenX baseplate) and tried both with the Gen & GenX highback. Def drove it better with the GenX, esp that the 2020 Orbit feels burlier to me.

Tried it with my buddy's Falcors also, but didn't like it cos not a fan of Unions baseplate feel nowadays (or lack thereof, rather). Felt way too dead underfoot to me, compared to my B's. Look forward to trying them with my Jones Merc binders I got for this winter, as I'm expecting them to be a little more responsive than my frank'd B's ... that's if I still have my Orbit then, though 😅.


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Interested to hear your thoughts on the Merc. Fondled a set at Wave Rave, seem like a perfect in between of the Drive and the Pilot. The straps also don't feel like garbage like most NOWs... I might actually just rode them instead of swapping out for Burton parts. 


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Interested to hear your thoughts on the Merc. Fondled a set at Wave Rave, seem like a perfect in between of the Drive and the Pilot. The straps also don't feel like garbage like most NOWs... I might actually just rode them instead of swapping out for Burton parts. 

Will def report back once I get some time on it. And yep, that's the flex range I'm hoping it'll live up to. That's the sweet spot for me, personally, paired w/ the Ion Leather or SLX.


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@parker would put stiffer bindings on the Orbit. Have MOW Drives on mine and seems like a good fit. Swapped out my Adidas Tactical boots for stiffer new K2 Aspects to break them in. Don't think you need carbon 10/10 stiff bindings but the board definitely prefers input. 


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Ill probably start out with the CI or R when I get on mine. The Rs seem like too much for the covert I'm gonna ride my S for the covert next time.


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