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Guess that makes sense. A little more usable length will allow a slightly more flexible feeling, and stability for landings. I am just used to a shorter, stiff tail at this point so guess it just comes down to what is most comfortable and familiar for each person.

What I like about a lot of directional boards with progressive sidecuts is that you are able to move the stance around like that without making it feel weird, find your sweet spot, whereas if you get too far offset on a twin with radial sidecut, it can start to ride weird.


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Interesting. I definitely find myself more drained after riding it. Today was the first day all season I broke 15k vert. Part of that is that driving the Orbit seems to require more energy. Part of it is the thing gives me so much confidence I end up attacking the terrain a lot more and riding more aggressively because I can. 

Moving stance forward to me wasn't about making it less or more aggressive, just creating a longer tail for more leverage over the tail. But I moved the front door forward a set of inserts last week and moved them back today-- something about it just felt off. Not sure if stance or setback, just didn't vibe. Can't imagine myself going for any shorter of a tail, but perhaps worth a shot. 


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Fuck the Orbit is so dope. Got another day in on it. Spring conditions, corn, slushy, and ice in the shade.

It's a poster child for risk homeostasis though. I've taken some of the hardest slams I can recall in the past few years. I feel more capable and am riding gnarlier than I have in recent years. I'm riding faster, charging harder, and generally sending it bigger because I'm more confident in the platform under foot. But when I do misjudge a line or land a little off-axis... it punishes the transgression a lot harder than other boards I've ridden in the recent past.


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Fuck the Orbit is so dope. Got another day in on it. Spring conditions, corn, slushy, and ice in the shade.

It's a poster child for risk homeostasis though. I've taken some of the hardest slams I can recall in the past few years. I feel more capable and am riding gnarlier than I have in recent years. I'm riding faster, charging harder, and generally sending it bigger because I'm more confident in the platform under foot. But when I do misjudge a line or land a little off-axis... it punishes the transgression a lot harder than other boards I've ridden in the recent past.

But yet, so worth the returns eh? 💪🏼


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Fuck the Orbit is so dope. Got another day in on it. Spring conditions, corn, slushy, and ice in the shade.

It's a poster child for risk homeostasis though. I've taken some of the hardest slams I can recall in the past few years. I feel more capable and am riding gnarlier than I have in recent years. I'm riding faster, charging harder, and generally sending it bigger because I'm more confident in the platform under foot. But when I do misjudge a line or land a little off-axis... it punishes the transgression a lot harder than other boards I've ridden in the recent past.

But yet, so worth the returns eh? 💪🏼

Yea the joy of sending it on this thing is 100% worth the knocks. It's also going to make me a better rider. If I can learn to correct and ride out sketchy under-committed back 1s on this thing, I should have no problem when I go back to more "normal" boards lol... or better yet it'll teach me not to under-commit back 1s lol.


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Now that we have had some cold ripping groomers this week, I’m seeing the same thing I said about my squash… the edges just don’t dry out. You could obviously push it long enough to get to that point, but it’s a great base. I guess the only brand I’ve ever had “trouble“ with, not that I actually mind, is Mervin. I said about the Mullair, I could have a fresh wax, take a couple cold groomer runs, and the fuzz was back. All the exact same wax/technique/etc. Meanwhile, I haven’t waxed the orbit for a little bit, have probably a good full week of riding on it in mixed conditions, and I’m still not going to wax it for tomorrow.


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@kimchi oh man I had this with an OG Burton Fish last season. First stiff full camber board I'd ridden in a long time and it absolutely kicked my ass (almost) every time. But what a joy to ride.

Orbit construction on a more Cadet-ish shape and I'd be in.


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@kimchi oh man I had this with an OG Burton Fish last season. First stiff full camber board I'd ridden in a long time and it absolutely kicked my ass (almost) every time. But what a joy to ride.

Orbit construction on a more Cadet-ish shape and I'd be in.

Ha I had a similar experience with an 08 Malolo a few years back. Drove into a heelside turn and fell right on my ass because I over engaged and locked right into it. 


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@kimchi oh man I had this with an OG Burton Fish last season. First stiff full camber board I'd ridden in a long time and it absolutely kicked my ass (almost) every time. But what a joy to ride.

Orbit construction on a more Cadet-ish shape and I'd be in.

Ha I had a similar experience with an 08 Malolo a few years back. Drove into a heelside turn and fell right on my ass because I over engaged and locked right into it. 

By ass I meant generally it knocked me around a few times. Like here:

(start @ 1:40… )


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One can draw parallels between the orbit and full-camber malolo, despite the clear differences. Ripping boards. That old malolo is what set the tone for me, I think. Float, carve, speed, don’t fuck up or else...

Have I mentioned that I’ve mentioned that I love the orbit?


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Took the Orbit out for a tune. Base grind and edges. So got to borrow this Tur Buteo 57 which has similar specs to demo coming weekend. Wish it was the 62 instead but we’ll see.  

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@kimchi oh man I had this with an OG Burton Fish last season. First stiff full camber board I'd ridden in a long time and it absolutely kicked my ass (almost) every time. But what a joy to ride.

Orbit construction on a more Cadet-ish shape and I'd be in.

Ha I had a similar experience with an 08 Malolo a few years back. Drove into a heelside turn and fell right on my ass because I over engaged and locked right into it. 

By ass I meant generally it knocked me around a few times. Like here:

(start @ 1:40… )

ok, great scenery and terrain.   where is this?  how are you on a solid board in great conditions with no one else around?  how did you shoot the third person parts?  looks great though the fish eye on your helmet reminds me of....

helmet

 


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@unsatisfiedus this is all shot on a GoPro Max (360 cam) mounted on my helmet. Makes me look like a teletubby.


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How do you guys compare the cadet vs the pioneer? they look to be a similar shape what are the main differences?

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How do you guys compare the cadet vs the pioneer? they look to be a similar shape what are the main differences?

Take a look at the specs and tell us what you see...


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