hai. i need new bindings for next season. i'm a burton guy. my riding quiver contains a custom x 160 (everyday), supermodel 163 (fun, less stiff), kelly reissue 161 (fast fast fast) and a fish for pow days. my bindings are 2 old sets of cartels, and one old set of CO2s. i'm looking to pick up some new 2016 bindings on clearance, and not sure which of the newer bindings are for me. what i'm looking for: comparable to what i've been using, comfy, medium stiffness, and all-around awesomeness yet not bank-breaking. i'm an east coast freerider - no park or pipe - just groomers, trees, moguls...and get OUT west 3-4x per season for big boy hills. any advice/opinions appreciated. tenks.
genesis my be what you're looking for. responsive like a cartel but still fairly flexy like a malavita.
[quote quote=715]hai. i need new bindings for next season. i’m a burton guy. my riding quiver contains a custom x 160 (everyday), supermodel 163 (fun, less stiff), kelly reissue 161 (fast fast fast) and a fish for pow days. my bindings are 2 old sets of cartels, and one old set of CO2s. i’m looking to pick up some new 2016 bindings on clearance, and not sure which of the newer bindings are for me. what i’m looking for: comparable to what i’ve been using, comfy, medium stiffness, and all-around awesomeness yet not bank-breaking. i’m an east coast freerider – no park or pipe – just groomers, trees, moguls…and get OUT west 3-4x per season for big boy hills. any advice/opinions appreciated. tenks. [/quote]
I rode Rome katanas + Now Overdrives all last season. --- My favorite binding all time is the Co2 --- the katanas are closer to them in response than the O-drives which are stiffer.
O- drives = Damper Diodes, ultra responsive , really for freeride only. The highback is granite stiff --- Ride them when charging. Almost ZERO torsional give.
Katanas = Plush and responsive. Lots of ways you can adjust them. Damp, mid stiff, comfortable and Much less aggressive than the o- drives. You just forget they're there. They just perform effortlessly. I would say they're more comfortable, lighter and damper than your Co2's but a hair less responsive. -
If I had to choose one or the other, it would be the katanas.--- They look brand new with around 20 days on them and haven't been adjusted since the day I set them up. -- fantastic binding
If you're a B guy, I'd go with what Slim said with the Genesis or even the Cartels to keep costs down. I had a couple days at the end of the season on a pair of Genesis Re:Flex and really liked them. Responsive (which is relative) but very comfortable, great ankle straps, plenty of board feel. One thing for me is that B bindings always feel more like an extension of my boot..not like I'm strapping into a binding.
Other than that, I'm on all Unions on every other board. Love the Atlas as for me it's a great middle ground binding.
My $.02.....I've got a pair of Gen ECS, Gen ReFlex, Cartel ECS, Cartel Reflex & pair of Vita ECS but still prefer the Cartel ECS over everything.
cartels, malavitas, genesis. they are all fantastic, marginally different and comfy. get whatever you can find on sale in a color that you like. if at any point next year you think "gee is wish I would have gotten X instead of Y because I'd be having more fun or ride better" hit yourself in the head with a tack hammer until you are retarded as Canucker. (approx. 50,000 strikes)
if you like to feel your response coming through the binding, I would suggest staying away from the genesis. people say they give you the same amount of response as a cartel/etc (not in my experience) but without "feeling" it.
you seem to have the same preferences as me, and the closest thing I've found to something that feels close to older cartels is a current cartel base with malavita highback. I had cartel highbacks on one pair for a little bit, but they didn't feel as responsive, largely at the top. I like to feel it, so something like the genesis is the opposite of what I look for.
cartel is probably your best bet, all things considered
I used to think that I knew a whole lot about bindings. Especially B bindings. I rode a bunch of different ones, from flexy P1's to stiffer CO2's. I liked them all, but settled down to Cartels. Great binding, not cheap but not crazy priced either. So in the end I don't think that I've ridden anything but Cartels for close to a decade, other than for splitboarding. All kinds of Cartels, different years, disc and EST. So I guess I don't know shit... except to recommend Cartels...
thanks guys. i'll probably stay with the cartels. can hopefully find a good deal on last year's. maybe splurge on the malavita. now we just need this fucking brutal heat to end and start getting some snow. danka
[quote quote=900]thanks guys. i’ll probably stay with the cartels. can hopefully find a good deal on last year’s. maybe splurge on the malavita. now we just need this fucking brutal heat to end and start getting some snow. danka [/quote]
idk how picky you are on color, but here you go: http://shop.gorgeperformance.com/burtonbindings_1.aspx