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31/10/2020 9:11 am  

Curious to get some insight from you lot. Currently running binder angles of +21/0, with 0 & 2 clicks lean, respectively. My general understanding is if the front foot has a relatively more forward angle than the back foot, then the back should have more fwd lean due to lesser angle? But if have more duck-ish angles, then would make sense to have the same fwd lean for both? Or is this merely a subjective/preference thing?

Apologies in advance, as I'm not savvy with the mathematics/physics aspect of this topic 😅.


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31/10/2020 11:37 am  

All I'll say is that it seems to me it's a mix of a million factors, some subjective, some theoretically "objective" and some purely physical (bio mechanical).

Like, how flexible are your ankles? Your hamstrings? How strong are your leg muscles? Which way do your knees tend when you crouch? How sensitive to pressure points are you? How are all those things affected by your mood, what you ate or drank yesterday, how well you slept, whether you did activity recently? (How old are you? Heh…)

What shape are your feet in? What size are your boots? How wide is the board? What style of board is it? What conditions are you riding in? What style of riding do you do/want to do? 

etc…

And even if you can answer all those (and many other) questions empirically, who's got a formula that will pop out the perfect highback angle for you?

If it feels good, hit it. Every now and then, switch it up. It's part of the fun, no? 😉

 


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31/10/2020 1:16 pm  

There’s no formula, but typically that can/does make sense with a more directional stance, because of the way the rest of your posture follows in that orientation. It can effectively provide more balanced response & support, as rear leg can tend to be more bent. But yes, ultimately all that matters is what feels best to you. Try different things, find something that feels decent and ride it for a while, change as necessary. It’s good to bounce around until you land on what feels best.

At 27/+6 I used F3 front & F7 rear with burton, and with NOW I’m at 0 front + full 3 rear (other than being different bindings, I think part of that difference is you can’t rotate the latter)

Back when I was duck, I still used an extra click on the rear with union, as I was still riding a bit more open toward the nose, and it felt better. The more fwd angle/open toward the front I have become, the bigger the difference I’ve liked.

My avatar is an okay example of the difference.. I’m fairly relaxed/upright in relation to the board, and you can see the difference in each leg & highback


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31/10/2020 5:31 pm  

I ride NOWs like Spenser, and like him I ride a little bit of lean on my rear foot. Although, unlike him, I ride duck 18/-9. I’m not sure how much lean I ride, but it’s 2 or 3 clicks I think. That is what I ride on 90% of my days. On a pure groomer day I may add a single click to my front foot and then a corresponding additional click to my rear foot. 

As stated different bindings feel and engage differently. On my Sparks on my splitboard, I run the same duck stance, like the exact width and angles, but I run quite a bit of lean on my front and the corresponding tiny bit more on my rear foot 100% of the time. 

In the end, there’s no magic formula, you just gotta experiment and figure out what does and doesn’t work for you. 


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02/11/2020 8:18 am  

What is forward lean? What are you guys even talking aboot?


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04/11/2020 2:47 am  

Thanks for the input, boys. 0/2 clicks (front/back) felt great for majority of last season, so will stick with that for now. Was just curious in case there was an actual science to it, that I may have been ignorant to. 


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