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27/11/2019 12:15 pm  

^I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one:

Wife:  "I'm sick of your shit, why don't you take a beer down into the basement and stare mindlessly at your snowboard shrine?"

Me:  "I'm on it...!"


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Elektropow
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28/11/2019 1:39 pm  
Posted by: @bopuc2

I dunno how people with boards mounted on walls or lying around do it. If I have a board in my field of vision, I can't think of anything else.

Last year when I got a Korua Pencil+ I had it standing in the living room area (loft-type apartment)… I would just stare at it. During dinner, the wife would be talking and I'd turn to look at the board (p.s.: do not do this). As soon as I put it away I was fine.

Same this year. Moon Buggy came in, I had to put it away. Brought up the old Supermodel and then got the Fish… for a few days before packing them away from the trip, I was useless!

Guess I am preoccupied…

Yes! I've got the Banana Magic 161 leaning against the wall in it's cover bag, so I see the top sheet. Just thinking about pow butters, carving and flying through stuff on that thing constantly. I can't watch a movie properly. Currently single, so no one to talk to, except my boards. They keep me company. 


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DanDan
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06/12/2019 1:29 pm  

Why the fuck are people on SBF so caught up with waist width and boot overhang? Went over there for the first time in ages to check the buy/sell and saw that they're still jabbering on about it. It's been years, have we ever gotten to the bottom of this?


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06/12/2019 1:38 pm  
Posted by: @dandan

Why the fuck are people on SBF so caught up with waist width and boot overhang? Went over there for the first time in ages to check the buy/sell and saw that they're still jabbering on about it. It's been years, have we ever gotten to the bottom of this?

Extremely high jerry factor. Some of the posters on there are dope, some of them are assholes, most of them are kooks asking kook questions.


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06/12/2019 1:49 pm  
Posted by: @dandan

Why the fuck are people on SBF so caught up with waist width and boot overhang? Went over there for the first time in ages to check the buy/sell and saw that they're still jabbering on about it. It's been years, have we ever gotten to the bottom of this?

i had to give up on that place a long time ago. Way too many threads just asking what to buy and general kookiness


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06/12/2019 2:05 pm  

I've seen ten thousands threads in SBF asking what board to bring to Japan. 


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06/12/2019 2:29 pm  

Oh shit, had forgotten about that place. I think it's just the first forum that pops up when people google snowboard stuff and places to ask about it = lotta Jerries. The thing is people overanalyze when they don't have experience, but want to make the best possible purchase. I think @kimchi pointed it out well in another thread that you can just get one board that's not an extremely specific board, be it any length etc., and grow into it quickly and have fun. When you start pushing that board to different extremes you start noticing what you want more and how you would wish for the board to adapt to your input. Way too many people are dishonest about their skills and even more are ignorant what you really need to be doing to get the most out of a particular design. Kinda why most of it is absolutely pointless. Context is always so abstract. 


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06/12/2019 2:49 pm  
Posted by: @elektropow

I think @kimchi pointed it out well in another thread that you can just get one board that's not an extremely specific board, be it any length etc., and grow into it quickly and have fun. When you start pushing that board to different extremes you start noticing what you want more and how you would wish for the board to adapt to your input. Way too many people are dishonest about their skills and even more are ignorant what you really need to be doing to get the most out of a particular design. Kinda why most of it is absolutely pointless. Context is always so abstract. 

Yep. The only way you can really know what boards you like is through experience, and you can't shortcut experience. You could have two riders of the exact same build riding the exact same mountain and hitting the same features, and they might prefer completely different boards. Without that baseline of experience and known preferences, it's not worth obsessing over.

To be fair, I did the exact same thing during my first couple seasons riding, because it's a big upfront cost and newbies are overwhelmed with the amount of information and marketing spin out there. But whenever I respond to those threads, I try to push "make a couple key decisions, aim for good enough, then figure out 'perfect' later through trial and error."


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07/12/2019 1:40 am  
Posted by: @kimchi
Posted by: @elektropow

I think @kimchi pointed it out well in another thread that you can just get one board that's not an extremely specific board, be it any length etc., and grow into it quickly and have fun. When you start pushing that board to different extremes you start noticing what you want more and how you would wish for the board to adapt to your input. Way too many people are dishonest about their skills and even more are ignorant what you really need to be doing to get the most out of a particular design. Kinda why most of it is absolutely pointless. Context is always so abstract. 

Yep. The only way you can really know what boards you like is through experience, and you can't shortcut experience. You could have two riders of the exact same build riding the exact same mountain and hitting the same features, and they might prefer completely different boards. Without that baseline of experience and known preferences, it's not worth obsessing over.

To be fair, I did the exact same thing during my first couple seasons riding, because it's a big upfront cost and newbies are overwhelmed with the amount of information and marketing spin out there. But whenever I respond to those threads, I try to push "make a couple key decisions, aim for good enough, then figure out 'perfect' later through trial and error."

Yes. Fair enough, did a quick study myself when I got back into it after a long hiatus. Rocker boards were all the rave, so through a couple recommendations from friends and online went that way. Aim was to have fun on small hills. Well, it didn't take long to realize the board had no pop I so well remember from camber sticks 10 years earlier. It also didn't take long to go out on a fucking icy day and slip out constantly and see the shortcomings of rocker. But, coming from a long history of skating, hitting rails was super easy and natural. On my second day I was doing long fs boardslides, presses on benches etc. and that was fun.

Two years later was planning my first trip to the Alps and gear tedious gear swapping started through having to ride in a ridiculously wider gamut of different terrain and conditions. Some days I thought I needed float, some days I wanted better edge hold and all the same time learning new riding mechanics. Naturally I was confused until I'd spent my first full season and realizing how things really work with everything. Now it's just a feel thing, whether I want that camber snap, drive, playfulness and have way too many boards to account all that. I can't hit a rail anymore, but I'm having way more fun with jumps off natural features and just cruising around.

As you said, you can rationalize and take all that into account before a purchase, but you won't know until you ride it and have a large plate to draw experience from and say with confidence what you prefer subjectively. Often you come to realizations as well from just watching some of your friends or local rippers do stuff, like pull a crazy euro carve casually and you try it many times without being able to, so you try another board and it happens almost automatically and the next thing you're looking online is the best carving board. You get the fucking Donek, pull a few carves but quickly realize what else you're missing and the circle continues. 

There's a reason do it all boards are so popular and hated at the same time: the haters want the easy way out to pull off certain maneuvers that require specialized equipment to do without technique and the people who love them are usually solid riders that understand riding mechanics and know what they need to do to make the board do what they want and it will without much limitations. This conclusion is just from personal observations..


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07/12/2019 11:14 am  

re: SBF chat, I know the generalities - it just seems like there's a weird obsession with overhang that I don't understand, it doesn't matter as much as they think

Starting snowboarding as an adult and in the internet age would be super weird to me. I'd probably be full of misinformation and spend my time watching vloggers.


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07/12/2019 2:52 pm  
Posted by: @dandan

re: SBF chat, I know the generalities - it just seems like there's a weird obsession with overhang that I don't understand, it doesn't matter as much as they think

Starting snowboarding as an adult and in the internet age would be super weird to me. I'd probably be full of misinformation and spend my time watching vloggers.

totally agree on the internet age perspective, a lot of great information available today but also a lot of misinformation as well... Have to be careful and take everything with a grain of salt. Sites like EL is a great way to see multiple sides to everything...


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11/12/2019 10:42 am  

Show me a cambered board, 265+ ww, 160-165cm, with 15mm taper +/- 3mm


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11/12/2019 11:16 am  
Posted by: @peteri

Show me a cambered board, 265+ ww, 160-165cm, with 15mm taper +/- 3mm

Closest I could think was B Moon Buggy, but it's not quite.

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11/12/2019 11:18 am  
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Show me a cambered board, 265+ ww, 160-165cm, with 15mm taper +/- 3mm

Closest I could think was B Moon Buggy, but it's not quite.

That was definitely on my radar! I wouldn't opposed to going longer. Just not feeling a super setback, super tapered board. If Korua made a more centered, less tapered I would be all about it


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11/12/2019 11:56 am  
Posted by: @psklt
Posted by: @dandan

Why the fuck are people on SBF so caught up with waist width and boot overhang? Went over there for the first time in ages to check the buy/sell and saw that they're still jabbering on about it. It's been years, have we ever gotten to the bottom of this?

i had to give up on that place a long time ago. Way too many threads just asking what to buy and general kookiness

I gave up on that place because it's owned by a conglomeration that just squats "$RANDOMSPORT$Forum.com" domain names and then fills it with so many ads and subscription models. The shitty content just made it easier to walk away.


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